I think we are being feed a bunch of bullshit by Falcons management

[Beef]

Everyone doing the hindsight thing wondering why we didn't pick this guy or that guy, please just STFU. Nobody is psychic. You can't possibly predict with absolute certainty who will be great, who will bust, or who will get injured... especially who will get injured. So if you're pompous enough to sit here & armchair GM from the cheapseats & take digs at our FO, get off your ass instead & go get a job as a psychic palm reader so we don't have to read your nonsense. I'm so F'ing sick of you guys bringing up who we could have had. You must realize that every time you do that a baby bunny dies. Stop killing baby bunnies you assholes.

[takeitdown]

First you build the core, or foundation, then you bring on the explosiveness. We have had to reach for a few guys due to severe deficiencies (LT in '08 for example). We should be to the point where fewer reaches happen, and we're able to also get more explosive.

As to the explosive players deal, I think they were wanting a new receiver last year. They scouted them very hard. There was a run on DTs in the 2nd (when everyone expected it to be in the 3rd) and so we had to take a DT early (which TD admitted). Most of the WRs we were scouting went right around the area we had to take the DT...and before our 3rd round comp pick.

I was one of the guys wanting a WR last year (and didn't want spoon), but I wouldn't have taken Dez, Swift. I liked his talent a lot, but he's the definition of a boom or bust prospect, so I would have taken Thomas or someone before him, even knowing he's better. I don't mind character when it means a guy might be a loudmouth, but when it means he might not bust his ass, you have a real shot of getting a useless guy, and you can't afford to take many of those in the first.

I truly think last year they wanted to go
1) OLB/DE
3a) WR
3b) DT or OL
4) OL

The run on DTs made them move up, and then a core group of WRs got gone before the next pick.

I haven't loved all the picks, and have wanted a better 2 receiver the whole time (didn't really want Jenkins extended) but understand most of the picks, and realize TD had to take some OL talent in the midrounds to protect against all of our FAs. It just made it a boring draft.

I had us taking a Jordan Shipley/Emmanuel Sanders type in the 3rd, and Jimmy Graham at 3b.(But Sanders went right before that pick, as did Graham) If that had happened, we would have been way more explosive, but we'd also be sweating the OL departures.

I just wrote a novel, but basically, the gist is...I think they knew last year we needed more explosiveness, but we also needed OL depth, and the draft fell poorly. We're hardly ever going to take a guy with questionable work ethic, but will take one that's a loudmouth. I also think they've built a foundation, and have learned it will take a little more explosiveness than they thought. On this front, I think TD is probably pushing Smith a bit. Smith's a bit conservative, but TD will mention that Douglas needs to be used more, and we need more threats. I think TD will try to load up on them this year, and if Mularkey still doesn't utilize them, I think there will be repercussions. He didn't have a lot of weapons to use last year, but TD seemed to think HD wasn't used well at the end of the year, and if he gets another WR, a seam stretching TE, and a COP back, and they're not utilized...it will be a problem.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

I dont think this thread was about who we should have drafted or shouldnt. Its about them feeding us (THE FANS) some bull shit line after a pathetic performance in playoffs. Now we will hear "WE NEED TO GET EXPLOSIVE" just like this all has been a process . This is brainwash material people. We should have been looking past 3 years FOR EXPLOSIVE PLAYERS & PLAYS ...but now all of a sudden TD feeds this to us or comes to the realization ..how come ? and how all of a sudden we just going to add explosive players and then us them on offense when the philosophy of our OC is pound the ROCK BALL CONTROL we are WINNING arent we ?


What does TD mean more EXPLOSIVE ? shouldnt that mean more on the OC & DC to find ways for our players TD drafted to be EXPLOSIVE ? or maybe TD hasnt drafted the proper players to be EXPLOSIVE ...what is it

[Beef]

(03-09-2011 06:32 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  I dont think this thread was about who we should have drafted or shouldnt. Its about them feeding us (THE FANS) some bull shit line after a pathetic performance in playoffs. Now we will hear "WE NEED TO GET EXPLOSIVE" just like this all has been a process . This is brainwash material people. We should have been looking past 3 years FOR EXPLOSIVE PLAYERS & PLAYS ...but now all of a sudden TD feeds this to us or comes to the realization ..how come ? and how all of a sudden we just going to add explosive players and then us them on offense when the philosophy of our OC is pound the ROCK BALL CONTROL we are WINNING arent we ?


What does TD mean more EXPLOSIVE ? shouldnt that mean more on the OC & DC to find ways for our players TD drafted to be EXPLOSIVE ? or maybe TD hasnt drafted the proper players to be EXPLOSIVE ...what is it

Dude you flat out don't know WTF you're talking about.

It's common knowledge you start with a QB & then build from the trenches out when essentially starting from scratch. They've tried to fill a couple offensive pieces in during the process just so we didn't suck total ass while newer players developed because that's just a smart thing to do. It's hit or miss sometimes because again, NOBODY IS PSYCHIC. We've had some pretty bad luck with injuries on top of it as well. But we've only had 3 years of the process & we just went 13-3. And for anyone to flip out like you do & go apeshit to the 10th degree with flip-flopping bi-polar bashing & hate mongering, considering the actual reality of the situation, is just mind-boggling. It's crazy dude.

I've said this to & about you a million times now, your expectations are obsurdly out of wack & you're a fool for insisting on using hindsight as a base for your arguments. And I'm being kind with the word "fool" because I'd love to say what you really are but I can't do that.

Just stop, for the love of all that is red & black, just freaking stop your nonsense. You are not smarter than these people who do this for a living. You are absolutely clueless compared to them. And until you accept this, you're going to continue to embarrass yourself & be the joke of this community.

[takeitdown]

(03-09-2011 06:32 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  I dont think this thread was about who we should have drafted or shouldnt. Its about them feeding us (THE FANS) some bull shit line after a pathetic performance in playoffs. Now we will hear "WE NEED TO GET EXPLOSIVE" just like this all has been a process . This is brainwash material people. We should have been looking past 3 years FOR EXPLOSIVE PLAYERS & PLAYS ...but now all of a sudden TD feeds this to us or comes to the realization ..how come ? and how all of a sudden we just going to add explosive players and then us them on offense when the philosophy of our OC is pound the ROCK BALL CONTROL we are WINNING arent we ?


What does TD mean more EXPLOSIVE ? shouldnt that mean more on the OC & DC to find ways for our players TD drafted to be EXPLOSIVE ? or maybe TD hasnt drafted the proper players to be EXPLOSIVE ...what is it

I think he hasn't drafted that many explosive players on offense, and he knows it. It also seems, from what he's said, he thinks the coaches do need to make better use of the ones we have (he says we need to do a better job of attacking all areas of the field.) In the first 3 rounds of TDs 3 drafts, he's taken HD as an offensive playmaker. That's it.

I think he's aware that he needs to get some more in, and also that they need to used more effectively. As I said, I'm pretty sure they were looking to get a WR in the 3rd last year. Now they're behind the 8 ball in that respect, but they've built a solid foundation.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

i dont even think this dude BEEF read my reply ..lol he might be so caught up with my posting he should actually take a time out and read. lol That post has nothing to do with being a PHYSIC or hate on one of TD picks..lol this dud is really caught up with me just responds...get a kick out of that LOLLLL

he will come back with some response probably attacking me but this poster has already been banned a week here and mods have warned him for his outburst when other posters here argued there points RESPECTIVELY this dude above goes on verbal attack like that makes him more a man or something be real dude lol

this guy cant put together post like takeitdown or even g dawg .....

[Gritz]

(03-09-2011 06:48 PM)Beef Wrote:  Dude you flat out don't know WTF you're talking about.

It's common knowledge you start with a QB & then build from the trenches out when essentially starting from scratch. They've tried to fill a couple offensive pieces in during the process just so we didn't suck total ass while newer players developed because that's just a smart thing to do. It's hit or miss sometimes because again, NOBODY IS PSYCHIC. We've had some pretty bad luck with injuries on top of it as well. But we've only had 3 years of the process & we just went 13-3. And for anyone to flip out like you do & go apeshit to the 10th degree with flip-flopping bi-polar bashing & hate mongering, considering the actual reality of the situation, is just mind-boggling. It's crazy dude.

I've said this to & about you a million times now, your expectations are obsurdly out of wack & you're a fool for insisting on using hindsight as a base for your arguments. And I'm being kind with the word "fool" because I'd love to say what you really are but I can't do that.

Just stop, for the love of all that is red & black, just freaking stop your nonsense. You are not smarter than these people who do this for a living. You are absolutely clueless compared to them. And until you accept this, you're going to continue to embarrass yourself & be the joke of this community.

A-freaking-men.

Like many on here I have him on ignore so I only see his tripe when someone quotes him.....

but you knocked that shit out of the park.....

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(03-09-2011 07:00 PM)Gritblitzer Wrote:  A-freaking-men.

Like many on here I have him on ignore so I only see his tripe when someone quotes him.....

but you knocked that shit out of the park.....

how does someone have me on IGNORE but read my threads ? they actually open my thread and read them shouldnt the ignore stop them from even seeing my created thread






does anyone quote my threads

[Beef]

Well think about it like this...

What if Sam Baker was way better, like probowl good?
What if HD didn't get injured & absolutely blew it up the past 2 years giving us that quintessential deep threat?
What if Norwood never got injured, played every game, & became that crazy-special explosive speed-back change-of-pace guy?
What if Jerry never got injured & was blowing up pockets every game & getting 8 or so sacks the past 2 years?
What if Willie Mo never got injured & played good enough to start in the probowl this year?
What if Sidbury & Biermann were everything we hoped they would be & combined for double-digit sacks while Abe never had that off year in 09?
What if Owens had turned into a near shut-down corner & B. Williams was a sack-master from the nickle?
What if Kerry Meier didn't get injured & was an incredible #3 guy for us?

You see, these are all things that TD, Smitty, the entire scouting staff, & even Arthur Blank not only HOPED, but actually THOUGHT would be the situation. They didn't draft these guys because they're stupid & wanted to just plug in warm bodies that they knew would suck or be useless & make this team worse. They did their extremely educated, professional, & diligent homework picking all these guys thinking they would make this team better. They obviously had no chance in the world of knowing any of them would suffer injuries that would prevent them not only from possibly helping the team, but essentially stunting their development significantly.

And again, you simply can't use hindsight to second guess these picks or decisions. That's only something crazy people with poor mental capacity do because it's impossible to predict. If things would have gone as planned, who knows how incredible we would be. If we would have hit gold on everyone like we hoped & not had any injuries, we'd be world champs, that I am sure of. But nobody is perfect & nobody is psychic. So we are where we are. A pretty damn good team that needs only a few holes filled to possibly become the best. We're not that far.

[mdrake34]

(03-09-2011 06:32 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  I dont think this thread was about who we should have drafted or shouldnt. Its about them feeding us (THE FANS) some bull shit line after a pathetic performance in playoffs. Now we will hear "WE NEED TO GET EXPLOSIVE" just like this all has been a process . This is brainwash material people. We should have been looking past 3 years FOR EXPLOSIVE PLAYERS & PLAYS ...but now all of a sudden TD feeds this to us or comes to the realization ..how come ? and how all of a sudden we just going to add explosive players and then us them on offense when the philosophy of our OC is pound the ROCK BALL CONTROL we are WINNING arent we ?


What does TD mean more EXPLOSIVE ? shouldnt that mean more on the OC & DC to find ways for our players TD drafted to be EXPLOSIVE ? or maybe TD hasnt drafted the proper players to be EXPLOSIVE ...what is it

Who we didn't draft is EXACTLY WHAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT. You started out about the coaches talking about getting explosive, and immediately mention that we passed over your boy Dez. You wanted another chance to throw TD under the bus for not drafting a total bum, albeit a talented one. Awesome.