I think we are being feed a bunch of bullshit by Falcons management

[Radical]

(03-10-2011 03:50 PM)cooperbh Wrote:  When TD starts drafting the Vernon Gholstons of the world over the Matt Ryans and then follows that up by coming to this message board to boast about how smart he is, then I'll start criticizing him.

You can't reason with him.

Wanted Vernon Gholston over Ryan.
Wanted Dunta Robinson, but bitches about it when we do get him.
Wanted Dez Bryant, but bitches about TD drafting players that get injured.

He's the epitome of a flip-flopper, and his primary agenda is to bitch.

[cooperbh]

(03-10-2011 04:01 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  He possibly made that move when he drafted Jerry instead of Matthews or how he drafted a OLB like Spoon over a potential top tier wr in Dez Bryant

Well, I don't criticize people for things they "possibly" did.

God forbid you ever draw jury duty.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(03-10-2011 04:25 PM)cooperbh Wrote:  Well, I don't criticize people for things they "possibly" did.

God forbid you ever draw jury duty.

What's your thoughts on Perria Jerry . Do you think he is going to have a huge impact on this team going forward or do you think Jerry might never pan out

[The Falcon Jedi]

(03-10-2011 04:28 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  What's your thoughts on Perria Jerry . Do you think he is going to have a huge impact on this team going forward or do you think Jerry might never pan out

Im not expecting much.

[Gritz]

(03-10-2011 04:47 PM)The Falcon Jedi Wrote:  Im not expecting much.

Too bad....

I expect a great deal from him......as I do for Sean Weatherspoon, as I did for Matt Ryan.......as I do for all of our 1st round picks.

You guys who throw the towel in so quickly on these players are something else. You would think with having the clear and shining example of Roddy White on this team you guys would have learned.

[ggp]

(03-10-2011 04:28 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  What's your thoughts on Perria Jerry . Do you think he is going to have a huge impact on this team going forward or do you think Jerry might never pan out

We may never see the Peria Jerry that TD envisioned. He suffered a significant knee injury. Jerry's game is all about explosive speed. Time will tell whether he will ever regain that explosive step. Lord knows, Tommie Harris never regained it.

[Beef]

(03-10-2011 03:22 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  I was def on board with Dunta Robinson signing we def overpaid him though and he turned out to be a bum but I find it funny that you can criticize me but can't TD and he is the guy getting paid . I thought the Dunta move was nessecary last year it didn't pan out but TD has to do a better job putting better pieces in secondary and sure up nickel but there is no doubt I was on board for Dunta it was a move that needed to be made from my standpoint but it's not right for me to say we overpaid for him . Coop will you go ahead then and say the Dunta move was a bad move then ?

LOL, why the F*** is this allowed on these forums? OMFG

[g-dawg]

(03-10-2011 06:36 PM)Beef Wrote:  LOL, why the F*** is this allowed on these forums? OMFG

[phocis850]

(03-10-2011 05:55 PM)Gritblitzer Wrote:  Too bad....

I expect a great deal from him......as I do for Sean Weatherspoon, as I did for Matt Ryan.......as I do for all of our 1st round picks.

You guys who throw the towel in so quickly on these players are something else. You would think with having the clear and shining example of Roddy White on this team you guys would have learned.

I'm with Jedi on this stance.

What did Roddy have that made him what he is today?
A teacher. We brought in Joe Horn and Petrino and all of a sudden he found out how to actually play the position at an elite level.

We have to face the fact that sometimes young players need to taken under a vets wing to actually start performing at a higher level.

Examples:
Brooking -> Lofton
Horn -> White
Turner/Ovie -> Snelling
Robinson -> Grimes (some would disagree)
Abraham -> Potentially a great player but terrible teacher.

We have a young team that needs to just gain experience. However, some of these players may never pan out unless a vet steps in to make them be what they can be. Abe is a vet, but our line has been a POOR part of our D. He is a great player but I'm thinking that he isn't the vet we need to take someone under his wing. He's had long enough. Maybe Beirmann this year... who knows.

I'm interested to see HD in a few years, but his injury really set that back. White has him by the neck and will make HD a great player in a few years.

[Radical]

I don't see how Abe is a terrible teacher. Kroy always seems to mention how great he's been for him. Just because Jamaal is pure failsauce doesn't reflect on Abe.