I don't really think the problem is Mike Mularkey

[AtlantaFalconPokerPro]

(10-19-2010 10:05 AM)Peyton Wrote:  I disagree, and I think way more than 10% of the Falcons fanbase realizes the offense is short on playmakers. I started a thread on the other board that said as much before the season started, and probably half the people who posted in it agreed with me.

As far as the media goes, I got zero respect for the media's opinion. All they watch is highlights.

Edit - but don't get me wrong. The problems with the pass protection are equally as concerning as the lack of playmakers.

Our problem lies within the O-line, and MM. I'll agree that we need more offensive weapons, but in the form of linemen instead of WR's. Look what a dominate O-line did for Dallas during the Aikmen era!

It's up to MM though to formulate a game plan for an offensive line that hasn't proven to be reliable. I think Snelling could be a bigger part of out game plan, but MM refuses to use his imagination. When an opposing team succeeds in shutting down our running game, it's like MM has no clue what to do next.

We have 2 very capable backs, 1 star WR, 1 nice possession receiver, 1 HOF'er TE, and a slot receiver that hasn't hit his prime. We have the players to put points on the board, but not an O-line to help get these players the ball.

A good O-line can make an O-coordinator look like a genius. A bad O-line can make an O-coordinator look like a babbling fool. I blame the 0-line for 60% of our problems, and 40% on MM for not adapting.

[Radical]

What scheme/play is there that compensates for an offensive line that is giving up pressure on a consistent basis to 3 or 4 rushers?

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(10-19-2010 12:51 PM)Radical Wrote:  What scheme/play is there that compensates for an offensive line that is giving up pressure on a consistent basis to 3 or 4 rushers?

when you have a QB that is able to attack down field...LOLLLL if you think the Eagles oline is something special that didnt stop them from attacking down field with Vick or Kolb


you want the real answer thats what you get

You have a QB that can stretch the field and has a arm to do it ..

and you have a aggressive player call like Eagles do ..

Roddy White is better then Maclin or Jackson


Problem lies with our QB arm and Mularkey

[Tandy]

(10-18-2010 11:32 AM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  we are a extremely avg football team that were lucky to back into a couple of wins

-our defense has been overrated to the competition and offenses we have faced

-Mike Smith is a good head coach (outside his tendency to waste a challenges I really have no problems with Smitty )

-Mularkey has no scheme that allows his wrs to get in space.. 2TE sets /predictable play calling 3rd and 1 Turner up the gut..Bootlegs/roll outs..slants.thats it


where are the double moves ? where are the passes to open up the middle of the field .?

WE ARE RANKED 22 IN YARDS PER PASS ATTEMPT 6.1

Matt Ryan is extremely avg QB that can win football games if games are going his way but has yet to shown he can carry a team when things arent especially like if our running attack gets stop..where has Ryan shown he can take team on his back

In 35 full games over 2 years, he has 3 fourth quarter comebacks and 7 game winning drives. Here is the link: Link

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(10-19-2010 01:17 PM)Tandy Wrote:  In 35 full games over 2 years, he has 3 fourth quarter comebacks and 7 game winning drives. Here is the link: Link

Thats from the team being in position in to win those games.. Ryan has made the throw when need be so ..Even though he threw the int on the 49er game he came back and lead the team to get into winning position .

No one is saying Matt Ryan isnt a winner..He is ..sort of like How Michael Vick would find ways to win us some games after being below avg 3/4 of the game he make a play or a run in 4th ..


Right now Im saying from a QB standpoint and looks and demeanor outside stats Ryan is a extremely avg in everything he does outside finding ways to win..I love wins we all love wins ..but come playoff time you want your QB to pass the eye test and those wins can lead so far ..Just like what happen in Cards playoff game right off the bat we had to come from behind and we tied game up but once they took away the run game our team was done being forced to pass


Looks wise

Ryan accuracy ...has been very spotty
his arm extremely avg
His pocket presence is not like it was in 08' when he went through his progressions

[Jesus]

Teams lose games. That's how the NFL works. We tend to over emote after a loss. Its fans its what we do. I don't know if the issue is the coaching or the players or the execution or all of the above. This is a good team that can go far. All we can do is support them and hope for the best. All the team has to do is execute. The fact is, the core of this team has gotten us back to back winning seasons and is closing in on another. So what do they owe us?

Players do age and we're seeing it happen with our team. Just when someone says Gonzo has lost a step he puts up a game like he did in New Orelans. Just when everyone is writing off Turner he puts up numbers like he did in Cleveland. Consistency is the problem. I don't know if the issue is coaching or execution but we can't continue to put together performances like against Arizona then follow it up with an SF game and keep winning. That's what happened. We played well in Cleveland, not great, but well then stunk it up in Philly. There were no game changing plays like in SF to keep us alive. The team just fell apart. You half expected to see Jim Mora on the sidelines. I don't think Smitty will let it continue.

[Radical]

(10-19-2010 01:12 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  when you have a QB that is able to attack down field...LOLLLL if you think the Eagles oline is something special that didnt stop them from attacking down field with Vick or Kolb

you want the real answer thats what you get

You have a QB that can stretch the field and has a arm to do it ..

and you have a aggressive player call like Eagles do ..

Roddy White is better then Maclin or Jackson

Problem lies with our QB arm and Mularkey

So your idea for stopping 3-4 guys from getting to the QB quickly is to throw deep down field. That's retarded.

[Tandy]

(10-19-2010 01:25 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  Thats from the team being in position in to win those games

[Radical]

(10-19-2010 01:46 PM)Tandy Wrote:  

Don't try to figure it out, you'll have a stroke.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(10-19-2010 01:42 PM)Radical Wrote:  So your idea for stopping 3-4 guys from getting to the QB quickly is to throw deep down field. That's retarded.

It opens the offense up ..

Kolb /Vick have one of the worst olines...how come they have a offense that goes down field

Rodgers sits behind one of the worst olines in the league ..how come they attack down field


Its really simple...Oline is made a issue for a team that is not "" softening up a defense" no defense respects our QB or our passing game..Load the box /force Ryan to beat them and stop Turner and send blit packages and force hot reads


Football is not that complicated ..either you have it or you dont...Our offense is struggling cause numerous reasons ..

1) QB play ..in accurate/ doesnt throw a good deep ball
2) inconsistent oline play to sustain blocks or open holes
3) Mularkey scheme to open things up and not just playbook but open up middle of field
4) wrs not being able to get in separation from corners..

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(10-19-2010 01:46 PM)Tandy Wrote:  

?? not sure what your confused about there Tandy ..The team was in position to win a game Ryan lead us down to drive..Out of those 8 come back wins how many of those games was for his porous play

6 out of 8 of Ryan comeback wins he had a Passer Rating under a below avg 80

That is why maybe we as a team were in position to win that game outside Ryan poor play either defense kept us in the game or run whatever case may be but Ryan made a play when need be so .It might not have been pretty but it was a win