I cringe everytime I see Clay Mathews dominate and wonder why TD did not draft him?

[JDaveG]

(11-08-2010 02:36 PM)chazmataz Wrote:  in all fairness to Jerry, whom I wasn't a big fan of that pick either, but he is a big dude, and i'm of a mind that it will take longer for him to be all the way back from knee surgery. some of it's mental too, just be patient and lets give him time.

I remember 1 play yesterday that Jerry blew up before it got started.

He's been a factor. He's not a pro bowler (yet) by any means, but he could be (possibly) in the future. He's "iffy" right now as to whether he'll be serviceable or elite, but he's pretty far from a bust.

[atljbo]

I think Matthews could have played SLB for us but the guy is meant to be a 3-4 OLB.... He would have find a role here but i dont think he would have been this dominant player he is now... Thats not the role he would have been asked to play here.

I still think we need to give Peria time... Comparing him to a 3-4 sack master is not fair tho.. Even if Peria turns into a Babs clone.... I still dont think you can compare the 2 because Matthews would have played a different role here.

[g-dawg]

(11-08-2010 02:53 PM)JOEinPHX Wrote:  Check out his jaw and his brow line. Compare it to his freshman photo at USC and you'll have your answer. The one thing I'll say in Matthews favor is that he's smarter than Cushing.

so you are suggesting Clay's dominance is "chemically induced"?

[Flip Wilson]

Juice?

[Shnikies]

(11-08-2010 02:56 PM)DemBirds Wrote:  He has as many sacks this season as the highly regarded Kroy Biermann.

Kroy has made game changing plays even a game winning play. So that argument is invalid.

[JOEinPHX]

(11-08-2010 03:35 PM)g-dawg Wrote:  so you are suggesting Clay's dominance is "chemically induced"?

What I'll suggest is that I've spoken with trainers who have insight into the Carroll-era USC program.

[g-dawg]

(11-08-2010 04:04 PM)Shnikies Wrote:  Kroy has made game changing plays even a game winning play. So that argument is invalid.

I love Kroy Bierrman but this is laughable on its face....analysis drippin' w/ homerism.

[TonyGraziani]

(11-08-2010 04:12 PM)g-dawg Wrote:  I love Kroy Bierrman but this is laughable on its face....analysis drippin' w/ homerism.

Causing 2 ints, his own vs. cleveland and Babs yesterday, aint playmaking?

[g-dawg]

(11-08-2010 05:22 PM)TonyGraziani Wrote:  Causing 2 ints, his own vs. cleveland and Babs yesterday, aint playmaking?

2010 stats:

Clay Matthews: 28Tkls, 11sacks, 1int
Kroy Bierrman: 19Tkls, 1sack, 1int, 1TD

there you go - broken down into hard numbers...

[TonyGraziani]

(11-08-2010 06:12 PM)g-dawg Wrote:  2010 stats:

Clay Matthews: 28Tkls, 11sacks, 1int
Kroy Bierrman: 19Tkls, 1sack, 1int, 1TD

there you go - broken down into hard numbers...

1st off, you didn't answer my question

2nd, I wasn't comparing Beer Man to Matthews. The guy you originally quoted wasn't either. He was talking about him vs. Jerry or JA98 (I can't even remember what thread I'm in smh haha)

3rd, if that is your standard for playmaking, then Clay is the ONLY playmaker in the NFL. Does that make sense to you?