How bad do you hate Mularkeys play calling? And do you want him gone?

[harveybirdman]

(09-14-2010 11:47 PM)kibitzer Wrote:  I voted Not Sure, but for a lot of reasons that rnb laid out there. It's kinda like the old "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know..." saying.

And ftr, on BVG, I never said, "fire his ass" but yeah, I rode him hard last year. I questioned him like an Iraqi Interrogator. I second-guessed him most of the season. By the end of the season, it dawned on me that really my only question about him was: is it him, or does he not have the talent? I posted a lot about this and got very little response (surprisingly people were non-commital to the answer). But if nothing else, the FO has made every effort to give him the talent this year. And it appears thus far, that he is doing something with it.

So, that is another reason I'm tempted to say, give MM another year. They go out and get him some new toys next year, well, let's see what he does with them. But like ALL Falcon fans everywhere, I'm tired. Things are looking up for this team, and that makes the waiting even harder to do these days. Just getting harder to "wait another year" for the pieces to come together.

This take is right on. +1

[The Don™]

(09-14-2010 11:47 PM)kibitzer Wrote:  I voted Not Sure, but for a lot of reasons that rnb laid out there. It's kinda like the old "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know..." saying.

And ftr, on BVG, I never said, "fire his ass" but yeah, I rode him hard last year. I questioned him like an Iraqi Interrogator. I second-guessed him most of the season. By the end of the season, it dawned on me that really my only question about him was: is it him, or does he not have the talent? I posted a lot about this and got very little response (surprisingly people were non-commital to the answer). But if nothing else, the FO has made every effort to give him the talent this year. And it appears thus far, that he is doing something with it.

So, that is another reason I'm tempted to say, give MM another year. They go out and get him some new toys next year, well, let's see what he does with them. But like ALL Falcon fans everywhere, I'm tired. Things are looking up for this team, and that makes the waiting even harder to do these days. Just getting harder to "wait another year" for the pieces to come together.

I never doubted BVG. I supported the guy b/c I KNEW for a fact that we didn't have all the players that they want. The pieces are nearly there on defense right now(They want Moore to start). From what I have heard and seen in TC, PS, and the first game, the defense has been ahead of the offense.

As for the offense and Mularkey, doesn't the guy have enough toys right now? White, Gonzo, Turner, Norwood, Douglas. The only thing I can say about Mularkey right now is let's see how he calls this game on Sunday vs. the Cards. If we see the same shit we've been seeing from him, then I'm gonna explode!

[USAF HART]

I don't think i'm ready to call for Mularkeys head just yet. Everyone makes the statement that we looked atrocious against the Steelers and I have to agree. However, we need to really take a look at what kind of defense the Steelers had/have. Last year WITHOUT Troy P. they were ranked 4th in the NFL in TOTAL defense. That says alot about the other players on that defense. If you look at them on paper, we should have been able to pass all day on those corners, but their front 7 is so electric and so good that they sent alot of different blitz packages and didn't allow Ryan sufficient time in the pocket.

This week we are facing a lesser defense in Arizona. They don't have Karlos Dansby at linebacker, but they still have Adrian Wilson at Safety and DRC at corner. I think it will be hard for Roddy to get good looks, but i'm hoping with the return of Jenkins and HD, they will not be able to double Roddy. Worst case scenario, Roddy is doubled, Jenkins and HD are single covered, and that leaves a mismatch with TG over the middle against a linebacker.

If Mularkey cannot get points on the board this game, I think we need to start looking a different direction. The only thing that scares me is that Ryan has been playing in this system for 3 years. WHAT IF, Mularkey gets fired and Ryan is not able to grasp the new offensive style his first year. What would that do to the Falcons in general, and to alot of the fans on here. People would be going NUTS!

I say if anything, let Mularkey finish the season and whatever happens, happens. If he gets fired in the off-season, it will give Matty some real time learning the playbook, and hopefully not missing a beat as far as winning goes.

[trickworm]

(09-14-2010 11:03 PM)Tandy Wrote:  If you asked me right now - I'd probably say yes from my gut - but ... I try to take into consideration that he did a great job with a rookie quarterback - and hoping last year was what it was based on a second year QB and injuries. Working with what he had.

I'm not going to say too much about a road game against what I personally consider the most consistently dominant defense in the league in one of the most hostile stadiums around the league.

But, if we don't see some real progress from this offense soon - like this week, I'm going to have to go with my gut.

This..
And let me add..

If we do fire Mularkey and hire someone else...improvement will not come quickly as everyone will be starting over from scratch with new terminology, route combinations, and blocking schemes.

I've been the most stubborn to stay on his side...I'm of the belief that our offensive woes are 80% execution and 20% Mularkey...but..I'm beginning to wonder if the execution, or lack thereof, is due to the players not believing in his system, because the execution was much better in 2008 and has progressively gotten worse...since the cardinal game.

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(09-14-2010 11:53 PM)The Don™ Wrote:  

(09-14-2010 11:47 PM)kibitzer Wrote:  I voted Not Sure, but for a lot of reasons that rnb laid out there. It's kinda like the old "the devil you know is better than the devil you don't know..." saying.

And ftr, on BVG, I never said, "fire his ass" but yeah, I rode him hard last year. I questioned him like an Iraqi Interrogator. I second-guessed him most of the season. By the end of the season, it dawned on me that really my only question about him was: is it him, or does he not have the talent? I posted a lot about this and got very little response (surprisingly people were non-commital to the answer). But if nothing else, the FO has made every effort to give him the talent this year. And it appears thus far, that he is doing something with it.

So, that is another reason I'm tempted to say, give MM another year. They go out and get him some new toys next year, well, let's see what he does with them. But like ALL Falcon fans everywhere, I'm tired. Things are looking up for this team, and that makes the waiting even harder to do these days. Just getting harder to "wait another year" for the pieces to come together.

I never doubted BVG. I supported the guy b/c I KNEW for a fact that we didn't have all the players that they want. The pieces are nearly there on defense right now(They want Moore to start). From what I have heard and seen in TC, PS, and the first game, the defense has been ahead of the offense.

As for the offense and Mularkey, doesn't the guy have enough toys right now? White, Gonzo, Turner, Norwood, Douglas. The only thing I can say about Mularkey right now is let's see how he calls this game on Sunday vs. the Cards. If we see the same shit we've been seeing from him, then I'm gonna explode!

I totally agree..the only thing Mularkey don't have is an Oline that can block anything but mediocre dlines. Against good dlines, they are a black hole of suck, consistantly. They're supposed to excel at run blocking...I ain't seen it. If your oline can't run block or pass block for shit, what are your options as a playcaller?

[kibitzer]

Here's the thing, though, trick. If they let him go and get someone else... the point is to find someone worth his salt enough to not feel the need to reinvent the wheel. I mean, there ARE some things that are working w/the offensive personnel that we have. I'm sure there are some things that are not working too, that won't unless we get/have different personnel. I just wouldn't worry too much about them having to pick up a new system. Hopefully the FO would pick the right guy that could come in and not tear down the whole building just to add another floor.

[Paulitik]

We can't run against a 3-4 defense, yet we still try to run it up the middle. Isn't that the point of a 3-4? To take the edges away? Everyone is switching to 3-4 Ds and the "power running game" is slowly becoming obsolete. I guarantee that the Ain'ts will be giving us some 3-4 looks in week 3. We have to adapt on offense and we are not. We run hook and out routes and maybe a post if the moon is aligned with Venus and Neptune. We have no play when our running game is stifled besides Matt taking over in the no-huddle with a very limited set of plays, and barely 2-3 seconds to make them. It's painfully obvious that Matt can read defenses better than our OC.

The only way we are going to open up our run game is the spread these Ds out with the occasional deep pass, and screen. We can't keep doing the same thing over and over again. A lot of us were screamed down the last few pre-seasons for voicing concerns that were not being addressed once the regular season started. This is a prime example of that. It was the secondary in 09, the playcalling and kicking game (again) in 10.

Mularkey needs to forget about how HE wants our Offense to look, and adjust to the weaknesses of a modern day NFL defense that actually schemes against our Offense's film. Take advantage of the talented, smart QB he has and give him more options in the passing game.

All that said, I voted yes for the long term, but I'm terrified of firing any Coordinator level coach early in the season. That would be the death knell for the season. See the Bucs and Bills last season. The only way it would work is promoting Musgrave, and slowly transitioning to a WCO, which Matt knows and thrived in in college.(Ironic, because 3 years ago, I never wanted to see a WCO again). I think the best method would be put more pressure on Mularkey to add more plays, let Matt have more control. If he resists, take playcalling duties away from him and give them to Musgrave. Either way, I don't want him near here next season.

[Jayhawk-Falcon2012]

Murlarkey needs to go. I'm all for kicking him to the curb at the end of this year. Realistically not a smart decision to cut him this early, especially after just one game. But i wonder who you guys think we could get to replace Murlarkey???

-ROCK CHALK

[JKH5785]

I said it earlier...

we are a Porsche 928 in a Porsche 911 TTs league.... Outdated.

The league is changing, we either change or die, and I think our run game is at it's best
when we are a threat with the pass.

[The Falcon Jedi]

I dont want us to change the Offensive Scheme. I dont want everybody to have to learn a new scheme set the offense back 2 years re-learning something new. I think the general scheme can work. But I do want to see someone else call the plays besides Mularkey.

Fire Mularkey. Keep his scheme. And let Musgrave or someone else call the plays.

[SeaMill]

(09-14-2010 11:47 PM)kibitzer Wrote:  Things are looking up for this team, and that makes the waiting even harder to do these days. Just getting harder to "wait another year" for the pieces to come together.

You know what? I posted this on the "YKW" message board but I will post it here. MM had all offseason to come up with new plays. I mean it was the first game of the year, what better time to show some new stuff. And it was the same ole boring, unimaginative, conservative playcalling we saw last year. Is he that stubborn to think that short stuff that takes 20 plays to go 80 yards will work?

I agree with everyone else. I hope this next game is different. I hope we at least see some flashes of "aggressive" playcalling.