Gil Brandt thoughts on Julio Jones and the trade

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(05-02-2011 11:36 AM)Radical Wrote:  Are you blind? Didn't you see that the question was asked on the previous page, before you asked your question? Is it not obvious that the questions you ask side step the points you were making in your previous posts? Do you even know what the "issue" is? Why do you have a different set of standards? Why do you claim to argue against something that doesn't exist? Why do you continue to post on a board where you're universally despised? Were you touch as a child? Is that why you behave the way you do?

Do THESE QUESTIONS NOT DESERVE ANSWERS?

1) I hold no diff set of standards for opposing players or front office . I watch game of football and know my shit so just cause Josh Freeman had more of a successful season in year 2 then Ryan did in year 2 does not equate to me Freeman will be the better QB , just like I don't equate the theory of Aaron Rodgers is a better QB then Ryan only because of the years . Aaron Rodgers will always be a better QB then Ryan that's my opinion by watching the 2 players play


2) I'm despised by who 3 posters . I get pms from mods and other posters telling me to keep doing my thing and just stay within the conduct . The 3 posters who despise me or you, gritz and beef , so I guess you 3 posters make up the whole forum

3) never touched as a child

[phocis850]

(05-02-2011 11:31 AM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  I asked a fair question of who do you think held a greater influence over there franchise was it TD in NE or was it Ozzie in Balt

I'll bite. Ozzie. And how does that matter? Both are now in roles they deserve to be in. You are just pissed off that we didn't keep the draft picks and select sub par talent that won't help us out this year. We gave 4 picks to get a sure thing this year that will help us score more points beginning with our first game. Jones singlehandedly will bring our scoring avg up at least 3-7 points. He creates a mismatch on the offense. Now people can't just stack the box and stop the run game and double Roddy. We have two receivers that warrant double coverage. Jenkins is a good #2, but he will be a #3 and at times #2. So 4 picks gave defenses a reason to stay back from the line more than 10 yards. This clearly is the best choice this year.

TD has already scouted next years draft as well. This draft lacked talent that we needed. There may be talent coming that he believes can be had next year that would pan out over time.

Also, Julio Jones may have improved our defense at the same time. If we get out to early leads then it would cause the other team to become more one dimensional. If we can cause them to pass, we can play the pass and keep an extra body or two in coverage.

This one signing may be all we needed to win your precious playoff game.
Yes, I want to win one also, but watching the team, I could tell that we didn't have all the pieces.
We still need a DE and CB, but overall, I believe we have what it takes to make it past the first playoff game.

[Radical]

(05-02-2011 11:50 AM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  1) I hold no diff set of standards for opposing players or front office . I watch game of football and know my shit so just cause Josh Freeman had more of a successful season in year 2 then Ryan did in year 2 does not equate to me Freeman will be the better QB , just like I don't equate the theory of Aaron Rodgers is a better QB then Ryan only because of the years . Aaron Rodgers will always be a better QB then Ryan that's my opinion by watching the 2 players play

2) I'm despised by who 3 posters . I get pms from mods and other posters telling me to keep doing my thing and just stay within the conduct . The 3 posters who despise me or you, gritz and beef , so I guess you 3 posters make up the whole forum

3) never touched as a child

Are you going to continue to side step questions and ask completely unrelated ones?

Dance more. It's like I have my own personal monkey.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

Radical will you answer the question of who do you think had a greater influence on there franchise TD or Ozzie or will not answer cause you know deep down inside the correct answer will only validate what I have said .. Let that marinate

Phocis - Julio Jones is far from being a sure thing . I feel the only player in this draft that's close to being a sure thing was Peterson DB from LSu . I can also understand and see where TD was going with a bold move for AJ Green local kid and rated a better prospect then Jones but we gave up way to much for a unproven player . Everyone who knows football has stated that shit even half of our fan base is divided .

[phocis850]

(05-02-2011 12:41 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  Phocis - Julio Jones is far from being a sure thing . I feel the only player in this draft that's close to being a sure thing was Peterson DB from LSu . I can also understand and see where TD was going with a bold move for AJ Green local kid and rated a better prospect then Jones but we gave up way to much for a unproven player . Everyone who knows football has stated that shit even half of our fan base is divided .

Guy is a mini Roddy White. Seems to move identical to him as well. With Roddy being his mentor, guy can't fail. It's not possible.

[Jesus]

(05-02-2011 12:41 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  Radical will you answer the question of who do you think had a greater influence on there franchise TD or Ozzie or will not answer cause you know deep down inside the correct answer will only validate what I have said .. Let that marinate

Phocis - Julio Jones is far from being a sure thing . I feel the only player in this draft that's close to being a sure thing was Peterson DB from LSu . I can also understand and see where TD was going with a bold move for AJ Green local kid and rated a better prospect then Jones but we gave up way to much for a unproven player . Everyone who knows football has stated that shit even half of our fan base is divided .

every draft pick is overpaying for unproven talent. Hell we traded picks to get Mike Vick. The team we traded with drafted Brees and Tomlinson a couple HOFers. They kept only one then traded for Rivers. Which would you rather have Brees or Rivers or Vick? One has a ring.

People thought the guarranteed money we threw at Ryan was too much but the amount tossed at Jake Long was good. Which would you rather have.

There is greater value to be had at the later rounds. Believe it or not, TD knows that.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(05-02-2011 12:48 PM)phocis850 Wrote:  Guy is a mini Roddy White. Seems to move identical to him as well. With Roddy being his mentor, guy can't fail. It's not possible.

He moves identical to Sidney Rice in my opinion . He might be slight step faster and lil bigger but that's who he draws comparisons to me and while Rice is a nice player and all and if you want to put his ceiling at Roddy ( which we will be lucky to have or for Jones to turn into) still don't think that warrants what we gave up for him .

If someone came to me said what player would you give up
21 spots 1st round in draft 2&4 and future 1st and 4th

Only a handful of players come to mind I would make that deal for

Brady
Manning
Rodgers
Troy P
Suh
Andre Johnson
Revis

that's bout it .

[phocis850]

(05-02-2011 12:57 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  If someone came to me said what player would you give up
21 spots 1st round in draft 2&4 and future 1st and 4th

Only a handful of players come to mind I would make that deal for

Brady
Manning
Rodgers
Troy P
Suh
Andre Johnson
Revis

that's bout it .

Then you could never be satisfied. We all know we gave a lot, but if FA never comes this year, then we actually improved our entire team with one pick. We needed a WR and we got one of the best of 2.

Our 5-wide will be sick to watch.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

Phocis- if FA never comes this move is even worse cause we still have some holes and question marks. The trade will look 10x worse cause we will be bringing back the same defense that was shredded in playoff game at home . So while Jones is a upgrade of talent at wr 2 position it does not mean were going to have a better team .

The way your talking right now phocis you think were going to super Bowl next year and we were 1 player away

[phocis850]

(05-02-2011 01:25 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  The trade will look 10x worse cause we will be bringing back the same defense that was shredded in playoff game at home

I KNEW this was going to come out.
You are stuck on the loss and will not get past it.
The team we saw could not move the ball well enough offensively. It wouldn't have been a blow out if we had a mismatch on the field. Julio guarantees this with our offense. This means longer sustained drives and less punts.

Our D SUCKED that game. They had the mismatch on us. There was nothing possible that we could do to slow them down.

If you bring up the playoff loss one more time I'm gonna change your signature to include...

"I'm delusional from our playoff loss against GB . Don't take me seriously until year 2413 . "