Falcons: with DC gone, is now a good time to consider switch to 3-4 defense?

[m2Falcons]

(01-09-2012 06:02 PM)Headshot Wrote:  Nobody forgot about Nicholas, it's just hard to make him fit somewhere. I'd put him at MLB next to Lofton before OLB.

Weatherspoon -- Nicholas -- Lofton -- Biermann
--- Peters ------ (FA/Draft Pick) ------ Babs ---



I could see Weatherspoon having 12-15 sacks as a 3-4 rush OLB.

Geez.. I forgot about Edwards playing one DE spot.
I don't know where we put Nicholas really... he could play ILB if we put Spoon outside but I think we would be better off with Sppon and Lofton inside and Sidbury and Biermann outside with what we already have, unless Biermann just utterly failed. Regardless we would need ultimately to get a stud OLB sooner or later if it isn't Spoon.
On another note... Akeen Dent and Lofton at ILB would be a legit combo also with Spoon and Sid outside.... dang!!! Now THERE is the LB Corp to start with!!

[raysnill1]

(01-09-2012 06:02 PM)Headshot Wrote:  Nobody forgot about Nicholas, it's just hard to make him fit somewhere. I'd put him at MLB next to Lofton before OLB.

Weatherspoon -- Nicholas -- Lofton -- Biermann
--- Peters ------ (FA/Draft Pick) ------ Babs ---

I could see Weatherspoon having 12-15 sacks as a 3-4 rush OLB.

actually people are forgetting about Sid. I could see Sid being able to become Dumervil 2.0

[g-dawg]

(01-09-2012 05:32 PM)Beef Wrote:  I agree, we don't remotely come close to having the players needed for a 3-4. Smitty would never move to a 3-4 either, he's a stonecold 4-3 guy.

Spoon and Nicholas are absolutely not 3-4 LB's. NONE of our DT's are even close to being 3-4 NT's and they certainly aren't quick enough to be 3-4 DE's. And as much as you guys may think otherwise, NONE of our DE's are designed for B/C gap inside penetration and they sure as shit aren't stand-up OLB type edge rushers. They are ALL hands in the dirt 3-point stance 5-technique edge rushers.

Believe it or not, with good DT's, a 4-3 defense can run a ton of exotic and unpredictable blitz packages. The problem for us is our DT's didn't get much penetration this year so most of our LB/nickle/CB blitzes came from the edges and as a result were often telegraphed.

The thing is though, I think we do have very solid DT's, but for whatever reason, BVG's defensive schemes were so vanilla that OL's just had an easier time defending our pass rush. I really think BVG is and always has been just a really good college DC who is out of his league in the NFL.

Beef, everytime I stare at your posts I become entranced......100% deadly. wow! and I'm not talking about your writing skills.

[insanefalconfan]

If we were to switch to a 3-4 Defense (Which I wont mind hense I think this Defense needs a change in identity) Id have it like this

Spoon----Lofton----Nicholas-----Sidbury
Babs--------------FA\DP----------------Peters



Since we like to rotate Id have Jerry and Edwards rotate at DE. Bierman I say will be a 3rd OLB as I think Sid beats him out in preseason.


But if anyone thinks Edwards wouldnt fit in a 3-4 let me know since im wondering and not totally sure on him

[Headshot]

I purposefully left Edwards off because I refuse to acknowledge his existence.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

Well for anyone wanting to switch I'm just warning you now, be prepared for a learning curve and for the defense to have moments where it looks down right silly. I don't want to switch just to switch. It's still a defense where you need the personnel for it to work.

[juraitwaluzka]

(01-09-2012 06:21 PM)g-dawg Wrote:  Beef, everytime I stare at your posts I become entranced......100% deadly. wow! and I'm not talking about your writing skills.

Writings, you mean all that stuff I scroll past as quickly as I can to get to the pictures at the bottom?

On another note, I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised by the turn of events and how positive I feel today, especially after the pathetic display of potted meat mmm hmm we displayed yesterday.

[Headshot]

(01-09-2012 06:38 PM)Dale4Saul2Red0 Wrote:  Well for anyone wanting to switch I'm just warning you now, be prepared for a learning curve and for the defense to have moments where it looks down right silly. I don't want to switch just to switch. It's still a defense where you need the personnel for it to work.

Houston did it, Green Bay did it, and San Francisco did it.

Not hard, you just need the coach.

[Radical]

(01-09-2012 05:41 PM)Headshot Wrote:  And Mike Smith is not a stone cold 4-3 guy, he coached in the 3-4 for a long time in Baltimore.

I'm not going to get into the rest of your post, but this is just flat out wrong.

The 2000 Ravens defense was a 4-3 defense. Their line had Sam Adams and Tony Siragusa playing DT, with Rob Burnett and Michael McCrary at DE.

[mdrake34]

(01-09-2012 06:42 PM)Headshot Wrote:  Houston did it, Green Bay did it, and San Francisco did it.

Not hard, you just need the coach.

I thought Houston and Green Bay had lost their minds when they switched, but that shows how much I know. Our Defensive players are so much more athletic than they were when we tried to switch to the 3-4 the first time. We had Patrick Fucking Kerney as an OLB, Brooking and Draft's old slow asses, it was a nightmare. I think we could easily switch with a few additions. It can't be any worse than what we are currently fielding. I'm torn over whether to keep Spoon outside or pair him in the middle with Lofton.