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pauliwood · 09-25-2012, 12:49 PM

(09-24-2012 01:03 AM)AUTiger7222 Wrote: Looks like he's down and still has the ball to me. Even Dan Dierdorf said it should not have been a fumble and that he was down and gave himself up, which he did.

This is not college, he was not down, there is no one near him, also the ball is coming out at this point, I know what Dierdorf said, but he was wrong.

AUTiger7222 · 09-25-2012, 04:18 PM

(09-25-2012 12:49 PM)pauliwood Wrote: This is not college, he was not down, there is no one near him, also the ball is coming out at this point, I know what Dierdorf said, but he was wrong.

In the NFL a player is deemed down if he falls on the ground untouched but does not try to advance the ball forward any longer. It's called giving yourself up. There was a play just like it last year that the regular refs got right. The replacement refs got the call wrong.

pauliwood · 09-25-2012, 04:28 PM

(09-25-2012 04:18 PM)AUTiger7222 Wrote: In the NFL a player is deemed down if he falls on the ground untouched but does not try to advance the ball forward any longer. It's called giving yourself up. There was a play just like it last year that the regular refs got right. The replacement refs got the call wrong.

You have to have the ball to not try and advance it. Mcluster did not have the ball, he clearly lost possession. It was a good call, Dan does not know everything, he was wrong. You can't give yourself up if you are not in possession of the football, he was not in possession of the football. As soon as his arm buckled, he fumbled.

AUTiger7222 · 09-25-2012, 04:46 PM

(09-25-2012 04:28 PM)pauliwood Wrote: You have to have the ball to not try and advance it. Mcluster did not have the ball, he clearly lost possession. It was a good call, Dan does not know everything, he was wrong. You can't give yourself up if you are not in possession of the football, he was not in possession of the football. As soon as his arm buckled, he fumbled.

His knee clearly hit the ground before he lost control of the ball. No he did not have the ball once his entire body was on the ground. But knee means down right?

pauliwood · 09-25-2012, 04:48 PM

(09-25-2012 04:46 PM)AUTiger7222 Wrote: His knee clearly hit the ground before he lost control of the ball. No he did not have the ball once his entire body was on the ground. But knee means down right?

At auburn yes, in the NFL no.

AUTiger7222 · 09-25-2012, 04:51 PM

(09-25-2012 04:48 PM)pauliwood Wrote: At auburn yes, in the NFL no.

Ok. Point made and taken.