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(09-27-2011 01:50 PM)Radical Wrote:  So, when people state that the success of the no huddle is "proof" that Mularkey is a bad OC and that it's only successful because he isn't calling the plays himself, it naturally makes me face palm pretty hard.

I am completely aware of why the no huddle works and how it is effective. I just make the comments about Ryan and MM because it seems like MM doesn't do anything to counteract what the defenses are throwing at him. Yes, our OL is absolute trash this year and that is going to have a significant impact on how well we execute. But why doesn't MM come up with some sort of scheme that disguises that weakness? I know I'm nowhere close to having the football knowledge of any of these guys, but some of these things just seem elementary to me. I'm sure that when you get more in-depth, it probably becomes more complex. But the gist of my Ryan/MM play calling comparison was not to try to show that Ryan calls better plays, but to show that it appears like he's figuring out these defenses before the OC.

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(09-27-2011 01:31 AM)cnasty Wrote:  MM will be gone after the season. I think that after these past few years of being too predictable and basically telegraphing our plays, the FO will take a loooong look at MM and give him the ax. He has a history of stagnant offenses and in all honesty, the trend is continuing here. Sure, it's still early to call something like this and it may be a little controversial. The fact of the matter remains that even if we somehow find a way into the playoffs and won a game or two, Ray Charles could see that we are better off without him. When Ryan runs the no huddle, we do exponentially better moving the football. We are talking about a 4th year fucking QB who can run an offense better than a long tenured OC. I'll wrap up my analysis and and commentary by saying that this move is long overdue, and I think the people that make those types of decisions would agree with that.

MR is still calling plays designed by MM....

He's changing things at the line when he sees the coverage which is best... but it's still a play designed by MM

[Radical]

(09-28-2011 01:33 AM)cnasty Wrote:  I am completely aware of why the no huddle works and how it is effective. I just make the comments about Ryan and MM because it seems like MM doesn't do anything to counteract what the defenses are throwing at him. Yes, our OL is absolute trash this year and that is going to have a significant impact on how well we execute. But why doesn't MM come up with some sort of scheme that disguises that weakness? I know I'm nowhere close to having the football knowledge of any of these guys, but some of these things just seem elementary to me. I'm sure that when you get more in-depth, it probably becomes more complex. But the gist of my Ryan/MM play calling comparison was not to try to show that Ryan calls better plays, but to show that it appears like he's figuring out these defenses before the OC.

To respond to your last line, that's because of how no huddle works. You're forcing defenses to play honest and simple, and you're calling the play after you see the defense. The OC never has that advantage.

How to cover for the offensive line? Everything that people have hated over the years. Boot legs(moving the pocket/misdirection), short timing passes that are hard to cover(outs, comebacks, curls, hitches), leaving in additional players to block. You end up limiting what you can do and you're no longer able to effectively be "explosive." This is what people have been complaining about non-stop for years now, and right now we're seeing the result of people getting what they want just after our line took a step back from the loss of Harvey Dahl and inconsistency at C.

There's things you can do when one guy is getting beat, there's things you can do when they are rushing more than your line can handle, and there's things you can do when the defensive line is overplaying the run or the pass, but there's nothing you can do when you have 2-3 guys losing one-on-one match-ups against a 3-4 man rush consistently.

A common football cliche' is that the game is won and lost in the trenches. It's a saying for a reason, and right now we're seeing a perfect example of a team with great skill position talent lose out to poor line play.

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(09-28-2011 01:33 AM)cnasty Wrote:  I am completely aware of why the no huddle works and how it is effective. I just make the comments about Ryan and MM because it seems like MM doesn't do anything to counteract what the defenses are throwing at him. Yes, our OL is absolute trash this year and that is going to have a significant impact on how well we execute. But why doesn't MM come up with some sort of scheme that disguises that weakness? I know I'm nowhere close to having the football knowledge of any of these guys, but some of these things just seem elementary to me. I'm sure that when you get more in-depth, it probably becomes more complex. But the gist of my Ryan/MM play calling comparison was not to try to show that Ryan calls better plays, but to show that it appears like he's figuring out these defenses before the OC.

youve got to be kidding lol...you mean the scheme that made everybody hate Mularkey? The short passes including curls and outs and quick slants? Never going deep, no end arounds etc. etc.? Yeah, we had that