Falcons: Ryan is in a tier of his own

[mdrake34]

(10-26-2012 05:11 PM)AUTiger7222 Wrote:  Big Ben is just like Terry Bradshaw. Both average QBs who happened to play in great situations and won Super Bowl's because of it. Big Ben is not a better QB than Ryan. Period.

Ben may not be a better QB than Ryan, but he can sexually assault a co-ed in a club bathroom better than Ryan, he can crash a motorcycle better than Ryan, and he can have a fucking stupid fat face better than Ryan.

[ATLBound]

I think people get clutch confused with elite. Big Ben is clutch...no doubt about it, but he isn't elite.

Before last year Eli was clutch, but he wasn't elite.

[Dale4Saul2Red0]

As long as he wins a Lombardi I could give 2 shits what tier Ryan is in

[hitwriter]

(10-26-2012 05:11 PM)AUTiger7222 Wrote:  Big Ben is just like Terry Bradshaw. Both average QBs who happened to play in great situations and won Super Bowl's because of it. Big Ben is not a better QB than Ryan. Period.

This!

[AUTiger7222]

[phocis850]

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/10/31/matt-rya...ent_stream

[juraitwaluzka]

It's getting to the point to where I am getting sick of the word elite. It gets tossed around all the time by the media but no one ever gives a clear definition of what it means, just another thing for them to blather about and pretend to sound smart.

One more subjective term in what I call their "yeah well" arsenal. Basically it boils down to them starting with their conclusion first then making sure they have something to explain away the contradictions when the data disagrees with their initial stance.

For example:

Fact:
"Matt Ryan is playing at a high level, leading the league's only remaining undefeated team."

Responses:
"Yeah well, he can't win a playoff game"

"Yeah well, he can't throw the deep ball"

"Yeah well, he's not elite"

etc...