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**Radical** · 09-26-2011, 01:11 PM

(09-26-2011 01:09 PM)phocis850 Wrote: Rad is on an island.

But I'm always lumped in with the homers. Funny how that works. I'm not really on my own. Ask Tandy, she knows the problem. Fix this line, and we're lighting up the league. Blaming the OC is just something that has been snowballing these past few years do to it being repeated so much. Everything people curse about with this team leads back to the offensive line under performing 95% of the time.

Paulitik · 09-26-2011, 01:20 PM

Fix the OL and sure we'll play better, but that doesn't take away from the fact that Mike Mularkey will never get the most out of this offense. We will succeed despite Mularkey, not because of him.

Statick · 09-26-2011, 01:20 PM

(09-26-2011 01:08 PM)Radical Wrote: Your copied article is such a ridiculous spin job that I didn't feel the need to even get into it.

Concerning your general complaint about Mularkey, I'm convinced that some people just want success, and they don't care how, and they don't understand what makes success.

People throw around that we should do this more, or do that more, or wonder why we do this or that, and simply don't understand why it's going on and what happens when we try things differently.

People wanted us to spread the defense out more, send 5 guys out on pass patterns, and not run so much. What happens? Our mediocre offensive line, now hobbled by an aging C coming off injury and a first time starter in Reynolds, is getting by just 3-4 pass rushers almost instantly.

How do you fix that? You run the ball, leave in extra blockers, and run short timing based routes that can be quickly thrown to a spot for an easy completion. Well, now you're not "explosive" and you're "predictable."

People want to scream about Turner not being elusive and being slow... when he's getting hit 2-3 yards behind the LOS. People want to ignorantly rant on about how Matt Ryan needs to start chucking it down the field. Others want to mouth off about how Mularkey needs to use "run better routes." Blah blah blah, I've heard it all. The reality is that it all comes back to the offensive line. You give us an above average line instead of the garbage happening on the field right now, we wouldn't be having any problems at all.

There is no scheme, play, playbook, system, philosophy, etc. that can overcome an offensive line that gets beat consistently by the defensive line of the other team. None, nada, and that's all there is to it. Our offensive line shapes up, and you see a Top 5 offensive. Our offensive line continues, then you can change the OC 50 times, and you're still going to see different looking versions of the same results.

Isn't a bad o-line the EXACT same reason that we gave last season for the offense stalling? It was. As I recall, people were blaming MM because he wouldn't change his playcalling due to the fact that he KNEW his o-line wasn't the best.

Now that we KNOW we have an o-line that's worse than last year and yet he STILL calls plays during a game as if it's going to magically rectify itself. Mularkey has never called a game due to the strengths (or weaknesses) of his personnel, but moreso due to personel packages based on what he thinks is going to work. Funny how it doesn't.

Stop making excuses for MM. A bad o-line isn't his only drawback.

BullRush · 09-26-2011, 01:24 PM

People say MM is an idiot and needs to be fire. Then in the same topic say we move the ball when Ryan calls the play or runs the No huddle. Guess created and taught those same plays to Ryan....

Paprika Neck · 09-26-2011, 01:25 PM

how about it's only the 3rd game of the season and let's give them time to gel. mcclure just got back from an injury, him and reynolds were frequently bulldozed on the run and the pass. give em 2 more games.

**Radical** · 09-26-2011, 01:27 PM

(09-26-2011 01:20 PM)Statick Wrote: Isn't a bad o-line the EXACT same reason that we gave last season for the offense stalling? It was. As I recall, people were blaming MM because he wouldn't change his playcalling due to the fact that he KNEW his o-line wasn't the best.

Now that we KNOW we have an o-line that's worse than last year and yet he STILL calls plays during a game as if it's going to magically rectify itself. Mularkey has never called a game due to the strengths (or weaknesses) of his personnel, but moreso due to personel packages based on what he thinks is going to work. Funny how it doesn't.

Stop making excuses for MM. A bad o-line isn't his only drawback.

And I say the offense wasn't near as bad as people made it out to be last year. Regardless, the things we did last year that people complained about so much were the things you do when you don't have that good of an offensive line(and a bad WR corps to boot).

People wanted us to spread defenses, pass more, stop running bootlegs, go deep more, and "dictate" to the defense more. Not going to happen when your front 5 can't even dictate what 3-4 defensive linemen can do. Blaming Mularkey for everything is just the easy way out. It's like blaming the President for everything that ever goes wrong in this country. Blaming the biggest fish just because is the intellectually lazy thing to do.

**Radical** · 09-26-2011, 01:30 PM

(09-26-2011 01:20 PM)Paulitik Wrote: We will succeed despite Mularkey, not because of him.

I suppose it was do to magic that we had a top 5 ranked offense last year?

BullRush · 09-26-2011, 01:36 PM

(09-26-2011 01:30 PM)Radical Wrote: I suppose it was do to magic that we had a top 5 ranked offense last year?

Yeah, see the way it works is positive play results credit go to Ryan, white, turner, gonzalez...

I wonder if Bears fans blame Mike Martz for their situation

**Radical** · 09-26-2011, 01:39 PM

(09-26-2011 01:36 PM)BullRush Wrote: Yeah, see the way it works is positive play results credit go to Ryan, white, turner, gonzalez...

I say if people can blame Mularkey for every missed block, dropped pass, interception thrown, or fumble, then we need to start giving him credit for every single bit of success we have as well.

As someone said about the interception Ryan threw against the Eagles looking for Julio Jones, "Mularkey called the play that led to that interception." Well folks, I guess from here on out, Mularkey is also given credit for any and all success we see as well.

Jayhawk-Falcon2012 · 09-26-2011, 01:44 PM

Honestly it falls on MM and the Line. If Baker is failing at his position so badly, then we have to find another position for him to play and get someone else over on that side. Like many have wanted/pointed to move him to RG and put Reynolds at LT. If all works out, then great if not, try something different. We have players probably waiting to show what they can do, yet the stubborness of the coaching staff seem to think Barker is just magically going to get it, no he needs to be moved, or benched for the information to really sink in.

I'll go out on a different path and say if MM's scheme that can allow his QB to stay upright, we'd be a better team in general. I guarantee Morale would boost and we'd all play better, but thats not the case.

Issue 1) Fix the offensive Line; if line doesn't get fixed, tweak the scheme so there's TE help on both sides. If the patriots can do 2 te sets and win we sure as hell can too.

That to me is the most important issue at this point. We've had line issues before and won, but this year seems very strange, we just aren't able to sync with everything.