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Beef · 02-05-2013, 09:05 PM

(02-05-2013 06:55 PM)FullMetalFalcon23 Wrote: I actually meant Brandon Williams. The big tackle out of SMSU.

When I put 3/4 I meant a combination of either or those spots being interchangeable. I actually would prefer Christine over Kenjon. He is a tougher runner without being huge and sacrificing speed burst and agility. I think I also like Bell. We real need an all around back who can be a spark plug in our offense. He doesn't need to carry it. Just be dangerous in it. To do that he has to be a back you can field on all downs. I'm not sure Barner is that back. For me guys like Christine and Bernard fit that bill more. Problem is we have to go DEnd. If we traded back and picked up a high 2nd and say a 4th rounder I'd probably be happier with the players I suggested as there would be an extra pick letting us go

DE RB in 2a and 2b
3 DE/DT

Then we would still have 3 more picks.
A comp pick in 3rd or 4th for Lofton
4th rounder as allocated
4th rounder from trading back.

Right there that could be a TE a Linebacker and a pick at corner or safety.

If Bernard is there at 30 do you take him?

To the last question, YES, abso-fuckin-lutely, if Bernard is by some miracle still there at 30, we take him.

If I had a "Big-Board" that listed the prospects that realistically could still be there at 30, Bernard would be at the very top of it. I mean obviously we couldn't put guys like Jarvis Jones, Demontre Moore, Johnathan Hankins, Sheldon Richardson, Alec Ogletree, or Kevin Minter there. All those guys are targets we would love to have, but being realistic, there's no chance they will be there at 30.

Bernard is very possibly a top 20 pick if some other team reaches a bit for him, but the cool thing is, the top 20-25 teams picking in front of us either A) have much higher priorities of need than RB, or B) aren't going to pass up on the crazy number of potential elite defensive players available, or C) hopefully won't "reach" for Bernard in the first round when this draft is loaded with good RB's who will still be there in rounds 2 and 3 for them.

Bernard is ranked between 26 and 36 on the 4 or 5 different Big-Boards I usually check. He's perfect for us in every way shape and form. Him and Quizz in our backfield would be a dream IMO.

As to the rest of your post, I actually agree that trading back for additional picks would be great for us, but I'm still afraid that by doing that we're taking a bigger risk of getting mediocre talent. And we're already stacked with mediocre talent.

It's time to get elite talent again, but on the defensive side, IMO.

Either pull a Julio and move up for the likes of Moore, Hankins, or Richardson, or go for a Bernard or Okafor/Montgomery, and pray we score gems in the 2nd and 3rd at DT and RB/DE depending on what we take at 30.

And to be honest, I don't think TE is near the priority most people think it is. I believe Smitty and Koetter believe we can supplement TG with a better running game and Coffman/Palmer/3rd or 4th round rookie (like Escobar/Fauria/Toilolo/Kelce).