Falcons: People are really going to bitch about this play-calling?

[RnB]

(10-03-2011 11:05 PM)Beef Wrote:  Those are the things being said by about 10 different radio hosts between 790 and 680, and about a dozen different analysts between NFLN, ESPN, and the local affiliates.

So your take is that none of these guys must have actually watched the game and are just haters with an agenda against Mularkey??

COME'ON MAN!

Talking heads. Watch the games and visualize what we are GOING to be like. Not what you expect us to be like.

[papachaz]

(10-03-2011 10:23 PM)cooperbh Wrote:  We do not have a dominant defense. Wubba, wubba, wubba. Honk. Honk.


See that? You're not the only one who can take things out of context and spew nonsense.

well since that whole post was nonsense, and really had no context, i guess you're partially right

[papachaz]

(10-03-2011 10:48 PM)RnB Wrote:  If you are mocking me, keep at it. I can not help it if there are numerous posters on this forum that refuse to step off their bandwagon to get MM fired. That is not something I can control, but I can give props to people who actually understand what we are doing, as a team, and comment positively about it.

i understand exactly what we're doing as a team, i watch it every week. and i am commenting positively about it. i'm positive next week, we'll run the same drab playbook, be so predictable even the children in the room will be able to call the next play 80+% of the time, we'll fail to make adjustments during the game regardless of how obvious we fail at some things, and the odds are we'll give up way more 3rd and longs than we stop. that is of course if we even make GB GET to 3rd down. if it gets to a point where their 3rd or 4th string qb comes in, or even if they put their waterboy in at QB, we'll find a way to make him look eligible for the probowl by the end of the game.....

yup, i understand it, and yeah i'm positive about it

[papachaz]

(10-04-2011 01:02 AM)RnB Wrote:  Talking heads. Watch the games and visualize what we are GOING to be like. Not what you expect us to be like.

the problem there tho RnB is that we don't see things are they are, we see things as WE ARE, basic pyschology. so while you'll visualize what YOU see we are going to be like, I visualize what I see were are going to be like, and Beef will visualize what HE sees we're going to be like. that's just basic pyschology, so what each of us visualizes is actually what we expect we're going to be like.

with potential injuries, unexpected twists and calls by refs, a punted ball that comes down and does one of those one in a million chance bounce off a DB's ankle......ya know, all we can really do is go with what we expect, subtracting what does actually happen from what we hope will happen. point is, we all are gonna see it our own way. and i will go ahead and say, my expectations are no longer what my hopes were last year and coming into this year. the schemes need major tweaking, because what we're doing is NOT working, and that's blatantly obvious, even to someone like me who don't have a lot of 'football knowledge'

[DemBirds]

(10-03-2011 02:04 AM)Nuccah Wrote:  Oh, you mean the huge doses of Turner against 9+ defenders in the box, every, freaking, time?

9+? Really? So at some point only one corner was covering a WR? Really? There was never 9 in the box. They didn't have to be because our line is so fucking bad they get penetration with the front 7.

[phocis850]

All I gotta say is that I, probably the #1 MM hater on the board, applauded the play calling in the first by both MM and BVG. The players were executing and the playcalling was helping to do so.

The ONLY reason I can see why we would change the plan in the 2nd half was because we were up by so much AND we have the Packers coming to town. Maybe, just maybe, this was a call by Smitty to not show to much of our hand to GB.

[Jayhawk-Falcon2012]

(10-04-2011 09:40 AM)phocis850 Wrote:  The ONLY reason I can see why we would change the plan in the 2nd half was because we were up by so much AND we have the Packers coming to town.

I think this is just a stupid reason to be an Offensive coordinator. Your job is to put points on the board. If you're putting up 27 points in the 1st half, don't release the gas peddle until its 30 seconds left on the clock.

Thats the issue, we're up and we stop playing. wtf is that. pull a Belichick and run the fucking score up. This is the NFL if you can't stop it we're gonna embarrass you. I guarantee the Packers aren't going to just change the plan if they're up 30 points in the first.

[RnB]

(10-04-2011 01:55 AM)papachaz Wrote:  i understand exactly what we're doing as a team, i watch it every week. and i am commenting positively about it. i'm positive next week, we'll run the same drab playbook, be so predictable even the children in the room will be able to call the next play 80+% of the time, we'll fail to make adjustments during the game regardless of how obvious we fail at some things, and the odds are we'll give up way more 3rd and longs than we stop. that is of course if we even make GB GET to 3rd down. if it gets to a point where their 3rd or 4th string qb comes in, or even if they put their waterboy in at QB, we'll find a way to make him look eligible for the probowl by the end of the game.....

yup, i understand it, and yeah i'm positive about it

I am very glad that you have faith in our team in the upcoming GB game. So you expect us to lose before we even play the game? Wait...

(10-04-2011 02:03 AM)papachaz Wrote:  the problem there tho RnB is that we don't see things are they are, we see things as WE ARE, basic pyschology. so while you'll visualize what YOU see we are going to be like, I visualize what I see were are going to be like, and Beef will visualize what HE sees we're going to be like. that's just basic pyschology, so what each of us visualizes is actually what we expect we're going to be like.

with potential injuries, unexpected twists and calls by refs, a punted ball that comes down and does one of those one in a million chance bounce off a DB's ankle......ya know, all we can really do is go with what we expect, subtracting what does actually happen from what we hope will happen. point is, we all are gonna see it our own way. and i will go ahead and say, my expectations are no longer what my hopes were last year and coming into this year. the schemes need major tweaking, because what we're doing is NOT working, and that's blatantly obvious, even to someone like me who don't have a lot of 'football knowledge'

I am sorry you feel that way. I do not think I could be a functional human being if I viewed the Falcons in a negative light. I try to look on the positive side of most things, football included. I can not do anything about what the Falcons are trying to do. I can only watch them kick ass and hope our ship is headed in the right direction. I see no point in lambasting our FO, Coaches, and Players on a message board. It solves nothing, and even if it is just "blowing off steam", it seems like the peak of anonymous douchebaggery to me.

(10-04-2011 09:40 AM)phocis850 Wrote:  All I gotta say is that I, probably the #1 MM hater on the board, applauded the play calling in the first by both MM and BVG. The players were executing and the playcalling was helping to do so.

The ONLY reason I can see why we would change the plan in the 2nd half was because we were up by so much AND we have the Packers coming to town. Maybe, just maybe, this was a call by Smitty to not show to much of our hand to GB.

I think this as well Phocis. Mike Smith alluded to this in his words after the game and interview yesterday. We were playing to protect the lead (bad decision, even though we were trying to hit some big pass plays in the second half) and the Seahawks took advantage of that on both sides of the ball.

I am not sure if it was to give GB less looks or not, we have already played four games, but I am sure that game has been on their minds since the end of last season. Smitty even said so.

[Statick]

(10-04-2011 01:55 AM)papachaz Wrote:  i understand exactly what we're doing as a team, i watch it every week. and i am commenting positively about it. i'm positive next week, we'll run the same drab playbook, be so predictable even the children in the room will be able to call the next play 80+% of the time, we'll fail to make adjustments during the game regardless of how obvious we fail at some things, and the odds are we'll give up way more 3rd and longs than we stop. that is of course if we even make GB GET to 3rd down. if it gets to a point where their 3rd or 4th string qb comes in, or even if they put their waterboy in at QB, we'll find a way to make him look eligible for the probowl by the end of the game.....

yup, i understand it, and yeah i'm positive about it

Pretty much.

+1 to you, sir.

[Paulitik]

(10-03-2011 07:04 PM)cooperbh Wrote:  This bullshit narrative is so worn out.

Those who paid attention saw that we all but abandoned the run and went pass heavy in the second half, despite being up by 20 points when it began. In fact, the very first play of the second half was a 45 yard bomb to JJ.

Even if the Seahawks were stacking the box to stop the run (they weren't), that doesn't mean you stop running the football.

This game was close because our O-line couldn't run block in the second half, and because our defense just plain sucks.

It's obvious you agenda pushers see only what you want to see.

We ran Turner 11 times on 7 posessions and 25 snaps, with one toss to Rodgers, which means we went to the run almost half the time. The only play Turner rushed successfully was on a holding call by Reggie Kelly. We ran him into a swarm of defenders. The Seahawks knew we'd run it up the middle, and dropped 8-9 in the box because they saw what was coming. There is only so much you can block when there are that many defenders keying in on the run.

At what point where our team keeps making the same mistakes over and over again does it fall on the coaching staff?

I'm not going to deny we have issues at OL, and on Defense, but so does every team. We have as much talent as any team in the NFL. When is blaming the talent going to stop being an excuse? Why is it when we are effective at execution in the first half, but not in the second does that fall exclusively on the players?

Agenda pushers? You defend Phalcon Phil and Swift when they hijack threads having nothing to do with QB play, going off on diatribes about Matt Ryan, yet when some of us complain about the playcalling, which is far easier to fix than replacing players midseason, we have an agenda. It's absurd.

It's not black and white, we have weaknesses on the OL and on the Defense, but the coaches share as much or more of the blame for that because they are not adjusting the scheme to address those deficiencies to their best.

3 1/4 years of the same issues of lack of pass rush, huge holes in zone coverage, and a stalling offense when the run game is stopped, at some point the scheme needs to be looked at. It's not some crazy notion that people may be starting to question the scheme or the playcalling.