Falcons: It's Not Mularkey, It's Ryan

[Beef]

(10-10-2011 07:12 PM)cooperbh Wrote:  OK, then you tell me why Ryan pulls the ball down when he has receivers running open down the field. Why he slides a yard too soon instead of going in head first for a first down. Why he regularly checks down on 3rd and long. Why he pump fakes after the safety is already beat.

We're really supposed to believe that it is Mularkey that is telling him to play so passively?

You simply can't tell me that Ryan was never put in a position to make game changing plays last night. He had several such opportunities and did not convert them, through nobody's fault but his own (Roddy's own failed execution at pass catching not withstanding.)

I am absolutely positive that it's fear of getting hit and injured. Do you not realize our OL is 32nd in the league in pass efficiency. See PFF lnk.

Taking 23 sacks and 30 QB hits over 16 games is a hell of a lot easier than 13 sacks and 16 QB hits over 3 games.

He's pulling the ball down because he is already checking down to his 2nd and 3rd receivers within 2 seconds of the snap if he doesn't see his #1 open instantly (of course this is on read throws and not timing throws). And if after 2 seconds he doesn't have a sure thing, he's rolling out to avoid what he believes is very likely coming if he waits any longer. And the whole time, he's got happy feet and his arm is going through the motions praying he can release the ball.

And he's sliding 2 yards early because again, he's been getting the shit beat out of him and his mind simply over-reacts to the fear now.

It's fear, fear, fear. And either way you slice it, it's as a result of his line sucking balls and letting him get his ass destroyed the first 3 games.

And we can sit here and say he needs to get over it, suck it up, and take the hits like a man, but that's exactly what he has been doing. A lesser QB would have crawled into a corner in the fetal position by now sucking his thumb crying to the media and totally bitching out of existance.

There are plays that exist that will help this entire situation out and yet we hardly call them and apparently refuse to hone them and instead we make excuses saying "they're just not our thing". Meanwhile, Ryan's going to continue to play scared. And it's wrong to blame him for doing so. The greatest and toughest of us can only endure so much until we're forced to compromise.

[Jayhawk-Falcon2012]

honestly I can't put MM on the issue on why Ryan is playing the way he's playing. Ryan and most QB's have the final say on how the offense is about to be ran at the snap. If he sees something he can audible right out of it. Blitz, call an Olive or Oil ( xD )

Ryan is the one throwing the ball, and ryan has to be the one to push the limit. He's playing very timid or "conservative". It's really crappy to watch our golden boy regress over the years, and start crumbling when the Safety is just at the line putting his hands up.

I've always supported our guy, but right now he has to be put on the hot seat by the coaches and players (especially the wide outs).

If he's having issues, fix them. It really is that simple, work longer with your receivers, study more tape, get with the freaking Oline and tell them to grow a fucking pair and block for him. These are grown men, yet right now they seem like a bunch of boys among men.

[Beef]

(10-10-2011 08:38 PM)Jayhawk-Falcon2012 Wrote:  It's really crappy to watch our golden boy regress over the years

Say what?

[Jayhawk-Falcon2012]

(10-10-2011 08:42 PM)Beef Wrote:  Say what?

You read it right.

The guy that came in and fixed our woes in 2008. Now playing like he is now, and like he has been since last year. He's not playing like he normally Should/Could be playing.

His level of play has been very mediocre and scarred. You can say its the extreme pressure, its this that or whatever, but he's not playing. The entire TEAM isn't playing to me. Laziness and complacency.

[nativefalcon]

Coop

Ryan is not blameless, but at the same time, wouldn't you be timid? If the guy that supposed to block your blindside is constantly getting bullrushed and can't handle it. You watch any other team, Pats, Green bay, they have time to throw, Ryan has 2 seconds and thats on a good day. They have like 4-5 seconds. The biggest problem is alligator arm baker. He was a reach on when they drafted him and its biting them in the ass. I would rather them move Clabo over to the left side then have Baker have another snap there. But Mularkey does call the run run, throw then Punt. We are so predictable its not funny. I get your points and they are good, one thing that gets me about Ryan, whenever they try that bomb To Julio its always out of bounds except that one time he caught it. You would figure he would practice that to keep it in bounds. If we had Charlie Weis here, Ryan would be the next Tom Brady. He doesn't have the strongest arm but hes a hell of a lot smarter then alot of QBs. But when he gets nailed 20 times and sacked 3-4 its going to shake any QB up. That whole loss was on the whole team from top to bottom, the defense was the only bright spot but in the end they got left out too much and Rodgers pulled his magic.

We got spoiled fron Konen being automatic, and Bosher should be fired. I think they should do tryouts right now and get him out of here. He leaves us in bad places and shanks too many times. Bottom line he sucks.

Old phrase, Its a giant Shit sandwich and everybody has to take a big bite of it.

Only good thing they could turn this around. But they need to do it now. Cam looks better. then people thought and you know the Panthers their going to run on us they always do.

[UCSBDirtyBird]

After watching that 73 yard TD that Megatron just caught, I am scratching my head trying to think if I have seen any similar route run by the offense this season. The double move by CJ allowed Stafford to throw to an area, and CJ adjusted to it perfectly. Could be that they are run, but not thrown to, or that they aren't being run, but I have yet to see anything like that. I am hopeful that Julio can run that route by midway through the season.

[nativefalcon]

(10-10-2011 09:33 PM)UCSBDirtyBird Wrote:  After watching that 73 yard TD that Megatron just caught, I am scratching my head trying to think if I have seen any similar route run by the offense this season. The double move by CJ allowed Stafford to throw to an area, and CJ adjusted to it perfectly. Could be that they are run, but not thrown to, or that they aren't being run, but I have yet to see anything like that. I am hopeful that Julio can run that route by midway through the season.

I saw that, and ran it back, Stafford has 5 seconds of time to throw the ball, matt on a good day has 2.

[UCSBDirtyBird]

(10-10-2011 09:43 PM)nativefalcon Wrote:  I saw that, and ran it back, Stafford has 5 seconds of time to throw the ball, matt on a good day has 2.

I am not assigning blame, just pointing out we never see the route. In fairness, Stafford just sailed one 10 yards past a wide open Burleson streaking up the sidelines.

There is a reason that a 3pt shot is worth more than a 2pter in basketball, it is tougher to be accurate from longer distances.

[Beef]

(10-10-2011 08:50 PM)Jayhawk-Falcon2012 Wrote:  You read it right.

And it's still absurd and laughable. Especially the "years" part.

[cooperbh]

(10-10-2011 07:56 PM)Beef Wrote:  I am absolutely positive that it's fear of getting hit and injured. Do you not realize our OL is 32nd in the league in pass efficiency. See PFF lnk.

Taking 23 sacks and 30 QB hits over 16 games is a hell of a lot easier than 13 sacks and 16 QB hits over 3 games.

He's pulling the ball down because he is already checking down to his 2nd and 3rd receivers within 2 seconds of the snap if he doesn't see his #1 open instantly (of course this is on read throws and not timing throws). And if after 2 seconds he doesn't have a sure thing, he's rolling out to avoid what he believes is very likely coming if he waits any longer. And the whole time, he's got happy feet and his arm is going through the motions praying he can release the ball.

And he's sliding 2 yards early because again, he's been getting the shit beat out of him and his mind simply over-reacts to the fear now.

It's fear, fear, fear. And either way you slice it, it's as a result of his line sucking balls and letting him get his ass destroyed the first 3 games.

And we can sit here and say he needs to get over it, suck it up, and take the hits like a man, but that's exactly what he has been doing. A lesser QB would have crawled into a corner in the fetal position by now sucking his thumb crying to the media and totally bitching out of existance.

There are plays that exist that will help this entire situation out and yet we hardly call them and apparently refuse to hone them and instead we make excuses saying "they're just not our thing". Meanwhile, Ryan's going to continue to play scared. And it's wrong to blame him for doing so. The greatest and toughest of us can only endure so much until we're forced to compromise.

I guess we just look at life differently. See, I believe that when you encounter adversity, you should pull yourself up by the bootstraps and work even harder than you did before. I don't believe in blaming co-workers, "the system," the past, etc, etc. Waiting around for others to solve your problems is never the way to go, IMO.

It's called "personal responsibilty." Find out about it.