Falcons: Interview from last summer with Koetter about offense

[Paprika Neck]

(01-15-2012 01:59 PM)Paprika Neck Wrote:  jags have as much talent as atlanta?

the silence is deafening. asu had the same talent as usc?

[ATLUGA87]

I pray we resign Harry D, he can cause a defense so much headache if we properly utilize him.

[juraitwaluzka]

As i said in another thread if you can only be successful when your team is loaded with talent, who needs you? Great coaches make it work.

Mularkey had access to Atlanta talent too so I'm looking for about the same thing to be honest. I'm not suggesting we will go down the tubes and be 5-11, but I see nothing to indicate this is the guy who will be able to take us to the next level. At best I think we will be stuck right where we are. I just think the philosophy is out dated.

You can use the talent argument now, like if we just had better players Mularkey could've taken us to the SuperBowl. I personally think we underachieved relative to the talent. I could be wrong, and I hope that I am, but I'm going to have to see it first. I see absolutely nothing besides blind hope and optimism to suggest that this is an upgrade.

[DemBirds]

(01-15-2012 01:59 PM)Paprika Neck Wrote:  jags have as much talent as atlanta?

Exactly. If Dunta Robinson is calling out your talent at WR, then you have a huge problem. He seemed to get the best out of his talented players, Jones-Drew and Lewis. And all that when apparently he wasn't even really running the offense the way he preferred. Am I underwhelmed at the hire with the other names that were linked to our search? Yes, I am. But if this guy was number one on our list, he was there for a reason. I for one will wait to see what he does with a talented offensive roster.

[Paprika Neck]

(01-15-2012 02:17 PM)juraitwaluzka Wrote:  As i said in another thread if you can only be successful when your team is loaded with talent, who needs you? Great coaches make it work.

Mularkey had access to Atlanta talent too so I'm looking for about the same thing to be honest. I'm not suggesting we will go down the tubes and be 5-11, but I see nothing to indicate this is the guy who will be able to take us to the next level. At best I think we will be stuck right where we are. I just think the philosophy is out dated.

You can use the talent argument now, like if we just had better players Mularkey could've taken us to the SuperBowl. I personally think we underachieved relative to the talent. I could be wrong, and I hope that I am, but I'm going to have to see it first. I see absolutely nothing besides blind hope and optimism to suggest that this is an upgrade.

he took inferior talent and brought them up to middle of the pack. i'd say that's mother fucking results right there hoss.

[ChrisD]

I think people need to trust Smitty and TD on this one. Obviously Koetter presented them with some sort of eye raising ability or words otherwise he wouldn't be here. However, I don't believe that he was #1 on our list. Regardless of what Mike Smith says. I feel like saying "He was the guy at the top of our list and we got him" is just to try and weigh some confidence in under Koetter as he begins in Atlanta. I'm not worried.

The past two years have been miserable for the Jacksonville offense, but they litterally had no one but MJD running the show. Lewis is a great tight end, but nothing like Gonzalez. With the likes of Turner, White, Gonzalez, Jones, and Matt Ryan - the possibilities are endless.

[Beef]

So he's not a big name, neither was Mike Smith and that's worked out pretty well.

We wanted a guy who knows/wants to spread out the field, use all our weapons, hit receivers in stride, use RB's in screens and as part of the passing game, use our slot receiver, stop doing hook, curl, and 5-yard out routes, and that's exactly what this guy wants to do and he clearly knows how to do it.

You chicken little folks are complaining about the name, but you're completely ignoring what was written up top in this Q&A article. He is the complete opposite of the conservative dink-n-dunk predictable crap we've had with Mularkey. He specifically states, in indirect words, how he really dislikes the dink-n-dunk style.

You guys keep saying that a great coach should be able to coach up bad talent, but that's a load of utter bullshit x10. I can't even begin to understand the logic some of you are trying to contend with that notion. It's fucking stupid as stupid gets. It's even worse when you've got an idiot rookie QB who's playing at the lowest possible level AND he has nobody to throw to.

This guy's ideas sound like they should work well with good talent. Although it will definitely require us to upgrade our OL significantly, otherwise he won't be able to do what he wants to do.

That said, from reading this, I have no doubt that Quizz will finally be utilized like we thought he would and become part of the passing game out of the backfield and we will see much more use of a screen game.

[mdrake34]

(01-15-2012 06:05 PM)Beef Wrote:  So he's not a big name, neither was Mike Smith and that's worked out pretty well.

We wanted a guy who knows/wants to spread out the field, use all our weapons, hit receivers in stride, use RB's in screens and as part of the passing game, use our slot receiver, stop doing hook, curl, and 5-yard out routes, and that's exactly what this guy wants to do and he clearly knows how to do it.

You chicken little folks are complaining about the name, but you're completely ignoring what was written up top in this Q&A article. He is the complete opposite of the conservative dink-n-dunk predictable crap we've had with Mularkey. He specifically states, in indirect words, how he really dislikes the dink-n-dunk style.

You guys keep saying that a great coach should be able to coach up bad talent, but that's a load of utter bullshit x10. I can't even begin to understand the logic some of you are trying to contend with that notion. It's fucking stupid as stupid gets. It's even worse when you've got an idiot rookie QB who's playing at the lowest possible level AND he has nobody to throw to.

This guy's ideas sound like they should work well with good talent. Although it will definitely require us to upgrade our OL significantly, otherwise he won't be able to do what he wants to do.

That said, from reading this, I have no doubt that Quizz will finally be utilized like we thought he would and become part of the passing game out of the backfield and we will see much more use of a screen game.

Exactly why I posted the article. Koetter is the Anti-Mularkey.

[Aftermath]

(01-15-2012 12:44 PM)mdrake34 Wrote:  He prefers the passing game apparently:



Jaguars offensive coordinator Dirk Koetter prefers pass but knows many factors determine game plan
“There are a lot of things that go into whether you can run or pass the ball besides my preference,” Koetter says.
Posted: May 22, 2010 - 7:04pm
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The Jaguars' Dirk Koetter points out where receivers are to line up during a workout Thursday. RICK WILSON/The Times-Union
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The Jaguars' Dirk Koetter points out where receivers are to line up during a workout Thursday.
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By Vito Stellino

This might be the year the Jaguars let Dirk Koetter be Dirk Koetter.

When Koetter was hired as the Jaguars' offensive coordinator in 2007 after he was fired as Arizona State's head coach, he had the reputation for being a passing coach.

"I'm absolutely more comfortable in the passing game, but one guy, one coach doesn't just dictate that," Koetter said. "That depends on the philosophy of your general manager, the philosophy of your head coach. How good is your defense? How good is your kicking game? How good is your quarterback? Can you protect the quarterback? There are a lot of things that go into whether you can run or pass the ball besides my preference."

And he admits his preference is throwing the ball.

"Absolutely," Koetter said. "That's my background. My background is in the passing game, but again, they don't pay you as a coach to go with your preference. They pay you to try to help the team win. It's the ultimate team game, and so there are things involved with whether you run or pass more, besides just what I like."

The Jaguars were a running team in Koetter's first year, going 11-5 with the league's second-best running offense in terms of yardage, compared to 17th in passing.

Running the ball made sense. The Jaguars had two talented running backs, Fred Taylor and Maurice Jones-Jones, running behind a solid line. By contrast, the Jaguars changed quarterbacks nine days before the season started when coach Jack Del Rio cut Byron Leftwich and handed the job to David Garrard.

Garrard had a good season, throwing 18 touchdowns and three interceptions.

He had two receivers, Reggie Williams and Matt Jones, who never lived up to their status as first-round picks, so the running game was the safe route.

The past two years, as teams continued to stack the box to stop the running game, the running game ranked 18th and 10th. But the passing game didn't take advantage of the emphasis teams put on trying to stop the run. The passing game ranked 15th and 19th.

Still, the Jaguars had the makings of an offense last year that had the potential to be explosive.

What got overlooked was the fact that the Jaguars still managed to be 11th in the league in explosive plays — 16-yard passes and 12-yard runs — with a total of 120.

Explosive plays are important because the 10 offenses that had more than 120 last year all had winning seasons, with an average of 11 wins. Seven qualified for the playoffs, and six teams were division champions.

And teams that had two explosive plays in a drive scored touchdowns 53 percent of the time and field goals 23 percent of the time.

Not surprisingly, the Jaguars want to build on the number of explosive plays they had last year.

Del Rio, who said he wants the offense to be innovative, said, "I think what we're going to do is continue to develop our football team, continue to look to field an offense that can generate explosive plays and score points."

Koetter said, "I hope we have an offense that's very explosive and scores a lot of points, doesn't turn it over, protects the quarterback."

When asked how to get explosive plays, Koetter said some are from schemes, and some are from players making plays.

all i needed to hear, sounds so familiar. we are screwed.

[Beef]

He REALLY is a 1000% opposite of Mularkey. All you have to do is read this Q&A and it's overwhelmingly obvious. There's 2 or 3 things up there that he says he likes to do that Mularkey has openly stated "We just don't do that...".

4 deep vertical passing with the wideouts pulling up around the 15 and the RB chipping off the DE and becoming a checkdown that can be hit in stride facing the defense??

We've NEVER come close to seeing anything like that from Mularkey.

Dare I say it sounds like this could be a full transition to a pass-first offense? Using the passing game to open up the run and utilizing the RB in the passing game on top of that? We're not going to be able to do that with Turner as our #1, so I really think Turner is gone.