Falcons: I don't understand all the Dirk negativity-LONG READ

[Peyton]

(01-16-2012 05:31 PM)IceFalcon Wrote:  Peyton - Before you feel like the ball has dropped to the ground, try giving him a chance. I really feel like this is a good hire. I was suspect at first, but after reading about him, and listening to his interview, I say give him a chance.

I'm done criticizing the hire. We don't have any choice but to give him a chance.

[RnB]

(01-16-2012 05:32 PM)Jimusmc Wrote:  hey guys

apparently what someone does in college means they're great in the NFL!

then you think of Bobby petrino and Nick Saban and know you're wrong.

I may be risking a stiff reprimand for what I am about to say but I am going to do it anyway because I feel it is a long time coming....

You are a joke. Why don't you do like you said you would, multiple times in the past week or so, and stop being a Falcons fan. Save us from having to read your terrible posts, please.

MOD EDIT - You know better.

[Paprika Neck]

i don't think all the player bought in to mularkey's mularkey... no matter how much of a hard dedicated team player you are if you don't believe in something you're not going to play amayzing..

[ggp]

(01-16-2012 03:33 AM)Paulitik Wrote:  Then why not go after the assistants of the great coaches? Sorry, but that makes more sense than hiring a guy who's been given opportunity after opportunity and had mixed to bad results every time. None of his successes at Boise, ASU, or Jackosnville say that this is the guy that can beat the Saints or the Packers.

Because that route has been tried time and time again. The Parcells and Walsh trees are full of rotten fruit. This hire was made by intelligent people whose careers depend on the outcome.

[Knight of God]

(01-16-2012 04:02 PM)Peyton Wrote:  You are right. I wouldn't answer the question because I didn't think it was possible. I was wrong.

But now that it's done, I am fascinated with the crowd that is asking "why are some of you upset?".

Like I said, I feel like I am in the twilight zone.

I'm perplexed by them

[Brehus]

(01-16-2012 02:43 AM)Paulitik Wrote:  Using Mularkey as your example doesn't help your cause. Any OC in the NFL should have good output with this talent regardless of scheme. My question is and has been is Koetter the best candidate for the talent we have, and was he the best available? No one has answered that. There is nothing on paper, no example of his coaching resume that can convince anyone that he was the best guy for the job. If there was something to go on, believe me I'd have found it by now.

He is Mike Smith's BFF so that seems to be enough for blank and TD to hire him lol

[cooperbh]

(01-16-2012 11:19 PM)Knight of God Wrote:  I'm perplexed by them

I'm perplexed by you guys. You all act as if it is a common occurance for established, highly successful OCs to just be sitting out there unemployed looking for work. Maybe one of you can cite an example of a high profile, "elite" type signal caller coming to a team as an OC - not a HC - and turning that team's offense around. Because I seriously can't think of one. I can think of plenty of unknown guys coming from nowhere and doing it - Payton, Garrett, Philbin and Reid, just off the top of my head - but not anybody who was a known commodity before they took the job.

Koetter's career arc is strikingly similar to the guys I listed above. Most had no OC experience before they made their names, and the ones who did were anything but a raging success in their first go rounds.

OK, so what am I missing here? You guys clearly know something I don't. Educate me.

[Knight of God]

(01-17-2012 12:44 AM)cooperbh Wrote:  I'm perplexed by you guys. You all act as if it is a common occurance for established, highly successful OCs to just be sitting out there unemployed looking for work. Maybe one of you can cite an example of a high profile, "elite" type signal caller coming to a team as an OC - not a HC - and turning that team's offense around. Because I seriously can't think of one. I can think of plenty of unknown guys coming from nowhere and doing it - Payton, Garrett, Philbin and Reid, just off the top of my head - but not anybody who was a known commodity before they took the job.

Koetter's career arc is strikingly similar to the guys I listed above. Most had no OC experience before they made their names, and the ones who did were anything but a raging success in their first go rounds.

OK, so what am I missing here? You guys clearly know something I don't. Educate me.

For one I'm on board now and we are still fans of the same team so calm down bro.

We complained not because of who or what, but rather where. You know man, I'm not as much of a butthole as you think I am. We have just made a few moves that annoy me. Edwards was one of them and most recently Koetter. I understand he had nothing to work with, but my issue wasn't his numbers. It was a few plays that he calls that irritate me on a football level.

I love playing against the bubble screen, but hate it run on my team.

After hearing what the man had to say and seeing a few more things and watching him express himself clearly I warmed up. Its just perplexing that some guys think that when we don't like something that its personal on them for liking it and it isn't.

None of us are stupid and we know what the team wants to do, but some of us just wish more could be done. I didn't do a whole lot of knocking anyone and I'm a recent TD fan so, I was just venting and now its all gravy.

I looked at some of his plays and with Ryan's natural affinity to making "impossible" passes this is going to be a nightmare team on offense.

RB - The check downs are usually 3-5 yds out
FB - Check downs rare. Additional blocker.
Slot - Tons of slants and outs
TE - DEEP THREAT!? Yeah, in Koetter's scheme its a common use.
Z Out - Option mid to deep
X Out - Option mid to deep.

I see some opportunity here, but calling out fellow fans for not liking something at first is odd to me. We are not all the same, if we were this place would suck. I appreciate those of you who immediately like a move that I dislike, but if a move is already made it makes sense that I'm going to calm down eventually. I haven't trolled since we cut Webster.

[cooperbh]

(01-17-2012 01:00 AM)Knight of God Wrote:  For one I'm on board now and we are still fans of the same team so calm down bro.

We complained not because of who or what, but rather where. You know man, I'm not as much of a butthole as you think I am. We have just made a few moves that annoy me. Edwards was one of them and most recently Koetter. I understand he had nothing to work with, but my issue wasn't his numbers. It was a few plays that he calls that irritate me on a football level.

I love playing against the bubble screen, but hate it run on my team.

After hearing what the man had to say and seeing a few more things and watching him express himself clearly I warmed up. Its just perplexing that some guys think that when we don't like something that its personal on them for liking it and it isn't.

None of us are stupid and we know what the team wants to do, but some of us just wish more could be done. I didn't do a whole lot of knocking anyone and I'm a recent TD fan so, I was just venting and now its all gravy.

I looked at some of his plays and with Ryan's natural affinity to making "impossible" passes this is going to be a nightmare team on offense.

RB - The check downs are usually 3-5 yds out
FB - Check downs rare. Additional blocker.
Slot - Tons of slants and outs
TE - DEEP THREAT!? Yeah, in Koetter's scheme its a common use.
Z Out - Option mid to deep
X Out - Option mid to deep.

I see some opportunity here, but calling out fellow fans for not liking something at first is odd to me. We are not all the same, if we were this place would suck. I appreciate those of you who immediately like a move that I dislike, but if a move is already made it makes sense that I'm going to calm down eventually. I haven't trolled since we cut Webster.

I'm perfectly calm and don't think you're a butthole. Just wanted to know why you were perplexed.

[Knight of God]

(01-17-2012 01:22 AM)cooperbh Wrote:  I'm perfectly calm and don't think you're a butthole. Just wanted to know why you were perplexed.

Well, I think I am sometimes. I almost negged myself once until I noticed it was me...LOL!!!