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evo · 01-22-2013, 05:56 PM

(01-22-2013 05:43 PM)ggp Wrote: I believe that we have a couple of defenders on this roster that will pay dividends for us going forward. Nolan should move us to the 3-4(base). If he does so, guys like Massaquoi and Matthews will become much more productive. I doubt Sidbury has any future with us.

I agree with Beef that we should find our RG in free agency. An experienced Master Blaster next to Konz would be the final piece to a dominating offense.

In order to add any free agents, the Falcons will need to shed contracts. Who do you guys view as the best drops to gain cap space? Here are my suggestions:

Turner: Pretty obvious. No need for explanation.

McClure: His contract is done, so this is not a drop, but will reresent a cap decision.

Gonzalez: I propose he sit out for most of the year. I would leave cap space to sign him during the season.

Abraham: Yeah, I know, he is our only pass rusher. The trouble is that he is 34, often-injured and a 4-3 DE. He can not be expected to play OLB much. Why I like and respect the man, I think that it is better to let players go a year too early than a year too late. (I said the same thing about Turner last off-season).

I think we'll keep Abraham, We cant afford to lose him, TG, McClure and Turner are easy to replace with, but we havent have luck with drafting and signing DEs.

Who else we would have if we cut Abe? Beerman, Mathews, Sidburry, and Massaquoi??? thats a joke of DEs right there.

ggp · 01-22-2013, 07:16 PM

(01-22-2013 05:56 PM)evo Wrote: I think we'll keep Abraham, We cant afford to lose him, TG, McClure and Turner are easy to replace with, but we havent have luck with drafting and signing DEs.

Who else we would have if we cut Abe? Beerman, Mathews, Sidburry, and Massaquoi??? thats a joke of DEs right there.

I think we need to move to the 3-4. Massa, Sidbury and Bierman can serve as our provisional OLB starters, with the expectation that we will draft additonal OLB's to cover our needs.

Our 3-4 DE's would be: Babs, Peters, and Matthews

I know that my suggestion is unexpected, but look at the money we will be spending on Abraham and set realistic expectations for his performance. I think that you will see that it is time to move on.

Swift Is a Die Hard · 01-22-2013, 07:59 PM

I really believe we should go corner 1st or 2nd round..for the future replacement of Asante or Dunta ..I like Amerson a lot

Swift Is a Die Hard · 01-22-2013, 08:01 PM

His value probably dropped to late 2nd cause of Tenn game

takeitdown · 01-23-2013, 07:11 PM

(01-22-2013 04:00 PM)evo Wrote: I rather us trading our 1st round to get a 2nd, 3rd and next year draft

We can go for DE,DT in 2nd round and RB,TE in 3rd.

Then sign a RG in FA....that would be a perfect scenario for any falcons fan.

This is very close to what I'd do. We need premium help on the lines, but we really need 3rd round caliber guys at WR, RB, TE, LB.

So, we either have to get those 3rd round caliber guys by getting extra picks (trade back) or by picking up mid tier FAs (decent talent).

My goal would be OG in FA. DE/DT with first 2 picks, and then ease the pain of the TG loss by getting a versatile RB, legit 3rd receiver, and quality TE.

If we let our offense regress to mediocre, we're a 7-9 team.

RFlagg · 01-23-2013, 08:55 PM

(01-23-2013 07:11 PM)takeitdown Wrote: This is very close to what I'd do. We need premium help on the lines, but we really need 3rd round caliber guys at WR, RB, TE, LB.

So, we either have to get those 3rd round caliber guys by getting extra picks (trade back) or by picking up mid tier FAs (decent talent).

My goal would be OG in FA. DE/DT with first 2 picks, and then ease the pain of the TG loss by getting a versatile RB, legit 3rd receiver, and quality TE.

If we let our offense regress to mediocre, we're a 7-9 team.

Everyone keeps clamoring for a free agent Guard, but quite honestly there aren't any out there that grab my eye. From NFL Trade Rumors:

Guards:
Rich Ohrnberger – ARI
Garrett Reynolds – ATL
Chad Rinehart – BUF – (RFA)
Andy Levitre – BUF
Mike Pollak – CAR
Lance Louis – CHI
Chilo Rachal – CHI
Derrick Dockery – DAL
Evan Dietrich-Smith – GB
Antoine Caldwell – HOU
Seth Olsen – IND – (RFA)
Joe Reitz – IND – (RFA)
Tony Hills – IND
Steve Vallos – JAC
Bryan Mattison – KC – (RFA)
Russ Hochstein – KC
Nate Garner – MIA
Jamey Richard – NE
Donald Thomas – NE
Brian Waters – NE
Kevin Boothe – NYG
Brandon Moore – NYJ
Matt Slauson – NYJ
Alex Parsons – OAK – (Ex)
Cooper Carlisle – OAK
Jake Scott – PHI
Ramon Foster – PIT
Doug Legursky – PIT
Tyronne Green – SD
Rex Hadnot – SD
Louis Vasquez – SD
Leonard Davis – SF
Chris Williams – STL
Kevin Matthews – TEN – (RFA)
Kyle DeVan – TEN
Leroy Harris – TEN
Deuce Lutui – TEN
Kory Lichtensteiger – WAS
Vince Manuwai – FA
Rob Turner – FA

The only notable players on that list are Brian Waters (who turns 36 next month) and Andy Levitre, who has played LG his entire career.

takeitdown · 01-23-2013, 10:24 PM

(01-23-2013 08:55 PM)RFlagg Wrote: Everyone keeps clamoring for a free agent Guard, but quite honestly there aren't any out there that grab my eye. From NFL Trade Rumors:

The only notable players on that list are Brian Waters (who turns 36 next month) and Andy Levitre, who has played LG his entire career.

Yeah. That's really a problem. I REALLY wanted OG last year (with the money gained from cutting Turner and not signing Manuwai) as it was a pretty good year for FA OGs. I more was speaking of general preferences this year, as I haven't looked at the class. We've just drafted a lot of 3rd and 4th round OGs, and they haven't panned out (even though that's where you find them) so I'm all for a proven vet at the biggest weak spot on the team.

Trading a late rounder for an older OG is not a bad idea either. We just need a proven guy, but need to be able to bring in 3 or 4 offensive guys and 2 or 3 premium defensive guys, so it's hard to see how to do that without getting an OG prior to the draft.

AUTiger7222 · 01-23-2013, 10:35 PM

(01-22-2013 01:46 PM)Aftermath Wrote: yeah, not really seeing the need to draft another Center, if we go OL it better be Guard.

Barrett Jones was the starting RG as a Freshman for Alabama's 2009 National Championship team. He was the starting LT as a Junior for Alabama's 2011 National Championship team. He was the starting C as a Senior for Alabama's 2012 National Championship team. He also started at RG in 2010. So that is the position he has the most experience at on the college level. So we could draft him and move Konz to center still with Jones at RG.