FORGET "ICE", He's Matty "ELITE" Ryan (link included)
12-21-2010, 09:45 AM (This post was last modified: 12-21-2010 09:54 AM by Tandy.)
RE: FORGET "ICE", He's Matty "ELITE" Ryan (link included)
(12-21-2010 08:56 AM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote: Go back and look at the games Tandy that Ryan 100, QB rating im willing to bet that most of the games are where Turner ran for over 100 yards ..Its a double edge sword it works both ways .. The QB opens up the field for the running game and the running game opens up the play action and loads the box . As for most part we relied on Turner more then Ryan ..WE ARE STILL A RUN TEAM FIRST ..No one is saying Turner is the leader our QB is the leader that is in most NFL franchise the QB is supposed to be a leader. Who is saying Ryan aint a leader please dont misinterpret my words please ..Turner is just as valuable imo
Run first team? Really?
Total Offensive Yards: 4891
Rushing yards = 1717 (35.1%)
Passing yards = 3174 (64.9%)
Touchdowns by Rushing and Passing: 38
Rushing TDs = 13 (34.2%)
Passing TDs = 25 (68.4%)
First Downs by rushing and passing: 280
Well, since I made it clear it was a team effort - not sure what your argument was there - but as for playoffs.
Yes - it's asinine. Ryan is in his 3rd year and has gotten us to the playoffs 2 times in those 3 years. No other QB we have ever had did that by his 3rd year as Quarterback - none. No other QB has ever given us back to back to back winning seasons - none.
As for your reference to the great job Flacco did????
Flacco - what were his stats in the 3 big playoff games he won:
24 of 55 for 43.6% completions and 330 yds for 6 ypa with 1 TD and 1 INT
1/1 330 yds and 61.9 QB rating.
The playoff game he won last year: 4 of 10 for 40% and 34 yds for 3.4 ypa with 0 TD and 1 Int and a QB rating of 10
He really contributed there - huh?
Bottom line - you are entitled to your opinion - but regardless of your intent, your posts are directly using stats to undermine any accomplishments our QB has made and there are statements which are not accurate - that is why I replied - not to stop you from feeling any way you want. You're going to do that regardless of the stats.
I'm not sure what it is that seems to cause so much emotion in some of our fans whenever a sports analyst comes up with something good to say about our QB - but it is an odd phenomenon that seems to be Falcon related.
Maybe you guys should stop trying to be such "realists" and try being a fan every now and then.
PS - there was an article on NFL.com not long ago with the surprising news that most of those teams would take Ryan over all the other young starters. They presented the article with surprise and our fans took offense - of course - because they are a bunch of realists - better to tear your players down than God Forbid look like a homer!
One more note to all of you guys - I don't care what you think about Ryan - I was simply posting an article from Pat Y. and suddenly everyone has their great opinions on what is elite or not. Since there is no set of specified criteria for being an "elite" QB and everyone has their own ideas - feel free to think what you want. It was posted for you to read - not to get everyone incensed over it. It doesn't mean you have to believe he is elite - it's only an article.
(12-21-2010 09:10 AM)Peyton Wrote: We've created an argument over semantics here.
It's disgraceful to dare say Ryan is better than average around our fans. I've never seen anything like it in any other fan base.