FORGET "ICE", He's Matty "ELITE" Ryan (link included)

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(12-20-2010 10:40 PM)cooperbh Wrote:  I remember that. That is, if you can refer to a rookie QB who rallies to post up 2 TDs and a 65% completion percentage in his first NFL postseason game as an example of someone who "played poor."

Do you remember all those times that Ryan was playing horribly, so Turner put the team on his back and led us to victory?

Yeah, me neither.

Your memory is short lived then if you cant remember
08' Tampa game Ryan was pretty bad but Turner carried us on his back to a important win think he ran for over 150+ yards ...Not sure if you remember or were a fan in 08'


09' Wash game ... Turner on his back ..


THINK WE ARE 16-1 WHEN TURNER RUNS FOR 100 YARDS


So as much as you want to put Ryan into that ELITE status he simply he not , there is a thing about being a flat out homer and being realistic coop . Ryan is special and he has a chance to be a elite and GREAT but at this moment he just is not that yet

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(12-21-2010 01:03 AM)cooperbh Wrote:  Ryan has a 63% completion percentage and passer rating over 90 in 2010. He is on pace to throw for 3,800 yards and 28 TDs. You wouldn't call that elite production?

and Ryan is not in top 5 in any Category .. Passer Rating/TDS/ Yards .
again how is Ryan elite when he also has not lead us to any playoff wins ..

Im the same dude that didnt put Brees in top tier cause he only won 1 up until last years run

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I would put Ryan with the next group of QBS ..

Brady
Manning
Brees
Rivers
Big Ben ..

next level ...if someone is to say Eli Manning is a better QB then Ryan is how can you not argue he isnt ? Manning help lead Giants to a Bowl..
I think Ryan is better then Flacco but Flacco has help lead his Ravens to some playoff wins ..Flacco needs to take next step in development .

Aaron Rodgers is a better QB then Ryan imo ...looks and stats ..but he needs to take next step to be considered elite