Dunta Robinson is a bum..

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(12-07-2010 06:06 PM)Radical Wrote:  Grimes was never supposed to be the Nickel guy, ever. Not a single time did he line up a nickel for us, not once.

Which one of TD's draft picks didn't pan out that made Grimes have to step up? No one, because Grimes was always set to be the starter. Owens was at nickel once Robinson came to town.

Dunta has had multiple tackles and hits that have broken up passes or caused a loss in yards.

0 INTs and 5 PDs is a pointless stat line to throw out that doesn't say anything.

You realize we won the game against Tampa right? Just in case you forgot, we won. That means you stay away until the team loses so you can rant on about how much of a joke we are/how much we suck, call Matt Ryan a weak armed Chad Pennington clone, and say we're nothing but a bunch of pretenders.

You are lost RADICAL like always ..lol There was a opening battle position for other db position in camp ..Dont believe me here is a LINK
link for RADICAL

At first we all thought if healthy Brian Williams would be starting or one of the young guys .. Owens or Chevis Jackson ( one of TD picks that never poanned out)
guess you have a tough time admitting that



Radical he was drafted 3rd round in 08' under TD regime if you didnt know NOW YOU know .. or Chris Owens who started last year games at corner for us was suppose to battle


so that is 2 guys that didnt pan out yet under TD at corner


LOL @ 0 ints and Pass defends are meaningless stats [/u]

why cause they dont fit your argument..Let me ask you a ?? have you been happy with Dunta play and how would you grade is play ? Please also factor in he is one of the highest paid defensive backs in the game


please answer

[Peyton]

(12-07-2010 06:23 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  You are lost RADICAL like always ..lol There was a opening battle position for other db position in camp ..Dont believe me here is a LINK
link for RADICAL

At first we all thought if healthy Brian Williams would be starting or one of the young guys .. Owens or Chevis Jackson ( one of TD picks that never poanned out)
guess you have a tough time admitting that

Radical he was drafted 3rd round in 08' under TD regime if you didnt know NOW YOU know .. or Chris Owens who started last year games at corner for us was suppose to battle

so that is 2 guys that didnt pan out yet under TD at corner

LOL @ 0 ints and Pass defends are meaningless stats [/u]

why cause they dont fit your argument..Let me ask you a ?? have you been happy with Dunta play and how would you grade is play ? Please also factor in he is one of the highest paid defensive backs in the game

please answer

That was a presumption by the media. The Falcons coaching staff NEVER discusses that stuff. Personally, I never understood how anybody thought that Grimes wouldn't be the starter.

[kane#7]

(12-07-2010 06:23 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  LOL @ 0 ints and Pass defends are meaningless stats [/u]

why cause they dont fit your argument..Let me ask you a ?? have you been happy with Dunta play and how would you grade is play ? Please also factor in he is one of the highest paid defensive backs in the game


please answer

Like I said before

Aso in the 10 games he played this year has the same stats... 5 Pass Def and 0 Ints.... that is a misleading stat I would like to know the QB rating when throwing at the Corner and how many times a game he is thrown at,
These are far more important than the other stats

I would give him a C+ so far this year not up to his pay but it is an un capped year and I am not paying him... The defense has improved...

I see Dunta as a Charles Woodson Type saftey now if we start using him more like that and he becomes more oppotunistic he could be worth the money

[Radical]

(12-07-2010 06:23 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  You are lost RADICAL like always ..lol There was a opening battle position for other db position in camp ..Dont believe me here is a LINK
link for RADICAL

At first we all thought if healthy Brian Williams would be starting or one of the young guys .. Owens or Chevis Jackson ( one of TD picks that never poanned out)
guess you have a tough time admitting that

Radical he was drafted 3rd round in 08' under TD regime if you didnt know NOW YOU know .. or Chris Owens who started last year games at corner for us was suppose to battle

so that is 2 guys that didnt pan out yet under TD at corner

LOL @ 0 ints and Pass defends are meaningless stats [/u]

why cause they dont fit your argument..Let me ask you a ?? have you been happy with Dunta play and how would you grade is play ? Please also factor in he is one of the highest paid defensive backs in the game

please answer

Who cares about your link. Anyone that knew anything about what was happening at Flowery Branch knew that it was Grimes and Dunta at the starting positions with Owens/Chevis/Williams competing at the NB position. Owens was the ONLY player that ever had a chance at the starting spot. Chevis never came close to sniffing the starting position, never was supposed to, and he was never expected to ever be anything more than a NB. What's next, are you going to go on a Matt Ryan rant and use Michael Lombardi's report a while back suggesting there were "whispers" in the organization that Ryan wasn't a franchise QB as a way to back yourself up?

How many interceptions does Nnamdi Asomugha have this year? How many passes defensed? Does size of contract matter when you're working on a broken, upward trending system that ultimately trends towards each next top tier FAs getting paid on the upward end of the scale? If everyone's contracts were redone right here and right now, would Dunta really be an overpaid player? We paid market value for the guy.

I'd rate Dunta as above average, not great. I'd rather have him over any of the other CBs that have been at the #2 position for us the past 5+ years.

Again, we're 10-2 and we've won our last game. I don't even see why you're here. I guess you need your "attention" fix?

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(12-07-2010 06:33 PM)Peyton Wrote:  That was a presumption by the media. The Falcons coaching staff NEVER discusses that stuff. Personally, I never understood how anybody thought that Grimes wouldn't be the starter.

I think we all assumed that but Grimes didnt solidify and lock down that position to after camp who remembers the poster SPORTSFREAK think they even posted in this thread wasnt it her who complain the staff is doing Grimes wrong ..Grimes has been our best corner and its not even close

[Radical]

And Sportsfreak put out a post well before preseason showing Grimes and Dunta was starting.

EDIT: It was just before April 1st when that was put out.

http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/2629/...nsdbdc.jpg

I saved that picture to my computer on April 1st, when I was helping Sportsfreak by hosting it online and posting it to the boards.

Camp started on July 30th and ended on August 22nd. The Falcons always state that every position is open competition(outside Matt Ryan and Todd McClure one year), but they obvious considered Grimes and Dunta the de facto starters.

[Peyton]

(12-07-2010 06:37 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  I think we all assumed that but Grimes didnt solidify and lock down that position to after camp who remembers the poster SPORTSFREAK think they even posted in this thread wasnt it her who complain the staff is doing Grimes wrong ..Grimes has been our best corner and its not even close

I do remember those comments from her. I thought the part about him being done wrong was last year, but I could be wrong.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(12-07-2010 06:35 PM)Radical Wrote:  Who cares about your link. Anyone that knew anything about what was happening at Flowery Branch knew that it was Grimes and Dunta at the starting positions with Owens/Chevis/Williams competing at the NB position. Owens was the ONLY player that ever had a chance at the starting spot. Chevis never came close to sniffing the starting position, never was supposed to, and he was never expected to ever be anything more than a NB. What's next, are you going to go on a Matt Ryan rant and use Michael Lombardi's report a while back suggesting there were "whispers" in the organization that Ryan wasn't a franchise QB as a way to back yourself up?

How many interceptions does Nnamdi Asomugha have this year? How many passes defensed? Does size of contract matter when you're working on a broken, upward trending system that ultimately trends towards each next top tier FAs getting paid on the upward end of the scale? If everyone's contracts were redone right here and right now, would Dunta really be an overpaid player? We paid market value for the guy.

I'd rate Dunta as above average, not great. I'd rather have him over any of the other CBs that have been at the #2 position for us the past 5+ years.

Again, we're 10-2 and we've won our last game. I don't even see why you're here. I guess you need your "attention" fix?

lol @ above avg ....

lol @ compairing Nnamdi Asomugha with Dunta ... can you name the games where Nnamdi was abused like Dunta has been this year


Radical take some time out of your day and read this link

link


and here are some advanced stats for NFL DBS

LINK FOR RADICAL


Dunta Robinson ranks among worst corners in LEAGUE

[Radical]

(12-07-2010 06:47 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  lol @ above avg ....

lol @ com pairing Nnamdi Asomugha with Dunta ... can you name the games where Nnamdi was abused like Dunta has been this year

Radical take some time out of your day and read this link

link

and here are some advanced stats for NFL DBS

LINK FOR RADICAL

Dunta Robinson ranks among worst corners in LEAGUE

You say he sucks and then state he has no interceptions and only 5 PDs as your supporting fact. You "proved" he sucked by throwing that out there.

Well, I compared him to a CB that is universally considered top tier who had the same stats.

So now you're going to scour the internet and post up a bunch of inane stats compiled through arbitrarily thrown together formulas by random people in order to back up your point.

Are you going to sit here and tell me that Chris Owens is better than Robinson, and that Chris Houston is better than Champ Bailey and Nnamdi Asomuga? That's what those inane stats say. That's the best stuff I've ever read... in terms of having a good laugh. Find something better or get real.

EDIT: To answer your question about Nnamdi. He gave up 4 passes for a huge chunk of yards and a major penalty against the Dolphins. (Still looking for the exact stats).

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(12-07-2010 06:56 PM)Radical Wrote:  You say he sucks and then state he has no interceptions and only 5 PDs as your supporting fact. You "proved" he sucked by throwing that out there.

Well, I compared him to a CB that is universally considered top tier who had the same stats.

So now you're going to scour the internet and post up a bunch of inane stats compiled through arbitrarily thrown together formulas by random people in order to back up your point.

Are you going to sit here and tell me that Chris Owens is better than Robinson, and that Chris Houston is better than Champ Bailey and Nnamdi Asomuga? That's what those inane stats say. That's the best stuff I've ever read... in terms of having a good laugh. Find something better or get real.

you looking at wrong numbers buddy ..look at EPA/SUCCESS rate and also Nnamdi is not the same player as well since he is dealing with a injury as well ...

Dunta Robinson has been a huge disappointment