College: Penn State Sanctions Handed Down by NCAA

[NOVAFalconFan]

Plus, how would it hurt the students, other than the number of players who couldn't get picked up by other teams, if you killed the football program. Are they going to college to get a degree, or to watch football? Because if it is just to watch football, they could bartend at Buffalo Wild Wings for a hell of a lot less expense.

[juraitwaluzka]

Any penalty for any infraction is going to negatively affect people who were not directly involved, it is impossible for that not to be the case. It's too bad there is collateral damage but should the NCAA never hand out a penalty to a program, only to individuals? Of course not, that would be absurd and would make any cheating that goes on now pale in comparison. The penalties are there to ensure it doesn't continue institutionally after those involved are long gone. Case in point, I bet PSU will have one of the cleanest programs around, they cant afford to do anything but that. Remember, SMU got the death penalty not for its initial infractions but because they kept paying players after they were already on probation - that and the 5 hookers killed by Craig James .

[swanlee]

I'm tired of hearing about the collateral damage of the Penn State football program. Fuck these people. Children lives have been ruined and the Football program was used as a lure by a sick demented person to get children to participate and be within reach of the sick monster that was a coach there. To top it all off everyone from the top down covered it up and Paterno let Sandusky use college facilities after Sandsuky retired knowing that he would prey on children.

I do not care one bit if current students or current players are effected by the punishment that School deserves. Transfer somewhere else, they have a choice in all this where the children did not. So is the NCAA supposed to look the other way as far as punishment goes just like Paterno looked the other way instead of turning Sandusky into the Police? I'm glad the NCAA said the buck stops here and we are going to punish this school for what it did wrong.

Doing nothing would have shown other schools that as long as you cover up issues you are going to get away with it.

Screw you Penn State students and faculty stop complaining, you don't like the punishment? Transfer and STFU!!!

This whole school seams like some deranged cult that is STILL trying to profess they are beyond reproach on an issue that went on with pretty much everyone's knowledge who was in power at the School.

I hope the civil law suits bring the school to it's knee's and it is held up over time as an example of what happens when you cover up something so terrible like a mass amount of child molestations.

[juraitwaluzka]

Can't disagree with any if that. Like you said if anyone there doesn't like it they are free to leave. If I was in school there I would get the hell out regardless. No way I would want to go into a job interview with PSU on my resume knowing full well what the first thing to pop into my interviewer's head will be, hell I might as well show up wearing the pedobear costume.

[Drathdon]

Here is an article from ESPN that suggest the NCAA made an error in judgement as well.

Sorry you guys disagree with me. I respect your opinion, but see it as creating more victims, which helps no one and is in fact, the opposite of what should be the focus - the victims of this crime. I am in no way defending anything here, but attacking the NCAA's abuse of power to punish outside of their purview. The NCAA's reaching here should be scary to any institution.

[NOVAFalconFan]

(07-28-2012 07:06 AM)Drathdon Wrote:  Here is an article from ESPN that suggest the NCAA made an error in judgement as well.

Sorry you guys disagree with me. I respect your opinion, but see it as creating more victims.

How is it creating "victims"? Victims of what, exactly? And who are these "victims"?

The NCAA's reaching here should be scary to any institution.

I hate the NCAA, but they should have gone much further. As far as scaring other institutions, I think that is the point. If you are covering up crimes to protect your football program, you'd better be scared.

[juraitwaluzka]

Indeed that is one more thing bad about this, PSU's acts, as a side effect have increased the power that the NCAA wields. It may actually embolden them. Still though the fault lies at their feet. The NCAA didnt cause this, they did. And given the nature of what was involved the NCAA had no choice bring the hammer down. They could afford to be criticized for doing too much but they could in no way put themselves in a position of being seen as doing too little.

Again, I despise the NCAA, I believe they are corrupt and unfairly administer punishment based on who is involved but this case supersedes all that, their hands were tied and I hate PSU even more because of it.

[Templar]

The problem is that the NCAA had to do something. Regardless of the fact that the university had dismissed all the parties involved, this situation was about more than just those people. It's about people associated with high profile athletic programs receiving special treatment. There were janitors who witnessed one of these attacks who were afraid to come forward for fear of losing their jobs. The NCAA had to make a statement that such things will not be tolerated. It doesn't matter if the people who created the situation are still there, it was the university that gave so much power to a football program that made people afraid to do the right thing.

[Passepartout]

NCAA whether you like them or not, or agree or disagree with them. Still they have a job to do. And that they are entitled to do it. Sorry folks.

[Drathdon]

(07-29-2012 06:28 PM)Passepartout Wrote:  NCAA whether you like them or not, or agree or disagree with them. Still they have a job to do. And that they are entitled to do it. Sorry folks.

The NCAA may have a job, but it is only to police their own policies, not step outside their abilities and police universities for anything they feel like, including criminal activities. They do not have that power.

Brent Musburger made similar comments on PTI this past week. He stated, "When they (the NCAA) start investigating criminal activity, that is a very slippery slope for them."

"They talked about culture, there's only one way you're going to change the culture in big time college football - take down the scoreboards."

"I think it was basically a PR move… this is not a football story, this is a story about a pedophile who happened to be a football coach."

"To me it is about those victims being taken care of, it's about talking about child abuse. It's not about talking about a coach's victories, it's not about talking about off tackle plays. I think the NCAA did us a horrendous disservice by pushing football back to the front and the victims to the back. Go take a look at the sports pages today and see what the stories are all about."

"If I thought for a moment the NCAA penalties were going to stop child abuse across the country, I'd say go for it. I know better than that."