Am i the only one still pissed that Mularkey is our OC?

[xstealth]

he's done better the last 2-3 games then he has done since 08, but I think we finish out the season with him.

Fire him and hire the madden national champ or something, I don't care anyone but him next year.

Bring in Brian Billick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BadMoonRising]

(10-12-2010 01:15 PM)Expat Bachelor Wrote:  Do you really want them to have to learn an entirely new offensive system right as Matt is hitting his prime? We are 6th in the NFL in total offense and near the top in time of posession, and 4-1 on top of that. I don't think that calls for replacing the OC.

Short Answer yes, in the off season of course.

That new system stuff is a strong argument, but be fair.

You want to run an offense that uses your core to their best abilities. Our QB is extremily mental and a X' and O offense such as the west coast would allow that to be utilized to its fullest.

Not to mention one of the awsome things about the WC is it alllows some many people to be involved with the offense. Easily able to plug in other players due to injuries, and get solid production.

There are tons of reasons lots of players wear superbowl rings running west coast offenses.

[Expat Bachelor]

(10-12-2010 01:25 PM)BadMoonRising Wrote:  Short Answer yes, in the off season of course.

That new system stuff is a strong argument, but be fair.

You want to run an offense that uses your core to their best abilities. Our QB is extremily mental and a X' and O offense such as the west coast would allow that to be utilized to its fullest.

Not to mention one of the awsome things about the WC is it alllows some many people to be involved with the offense. Easily able to plug in other players due to injuries, and get solid production.

There are tons of reasons lots of players wear superbowl rings running west coast offenses.

My point is that we are near the top of the league in most statistical categories so a radical change is not needed IMO. I personally prefer the smashmouth type of offense we are running to the west coast.

Yes, I would like to throw it deep a little more, but the last two games Matt has taken an awful lot of hits.

[JDaveG]

(10-12-2010 01:15 PM)Expat Bachelor Wrote:  Do you really want them to have to learn an entirely new offensive system right as Matt is hitting his prime? We are 6th in the NFL in total offense and near the top in time of posession, and 4-1 on top of that. I don't think that calls for replacing the OC.

For the record, Matt Ryan played in the WCO in college. It wouldn't be much of a transition.

I like continuity, so I think I agree with your point -- just wanted to be clear that IF the new system is a WCO-based system, Ryan would adapt quickly.

[redwolfcfc]

(10-12-2010 01:15 PM)Expat Bachelor Wrote:  Do you really want them to have to learn an entirely new offensive system right as Matt is hitting his prime? We are 6th in the NFL in total offense and near the top in time of posession, and 4-1 on top of that. I don't think that calls for replacing the OC.

Well obviously there are folks who think

A) continuity is over-rated.
B) if it ain't broke--break it--then try and fix it.
C) Wearing defenses down up the middle for three quarters and finishing them off in the fourth is boring as hell.
D) If the players fail to execute a play then it was a bad play call and the OC sux.
E) Making D lineman sprint to the sideline several times a game to wear them out is bullshit.
F) Offensive time of possession is not only over-rated but it is boring, sucks and is bullshit. Throw it vertical on 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down if necessary.
G) Balance? we don't needs no stinkin balance?
H) ZOMG! where are our 5-receiver sets?
I) Winning record be damned I want fantasy points!
J) Dudes last name is Mularkey. Can we please get someone with a cool name?
K) I wanna do it like Sean Payton.


Seriously can't we wait until we are not the top team in the NFC to go blowing the whole thing up?

I mean MM might not be Sean Payton or Mike Martz or Andy Reid or whoever is the golden child of the moment, but I remember Greg Knapp... and Mularkey might not be exciting like him but he does just win baby and I can accept that for now.

One last thing... Football is not played in a vacuum where 11 offensive players execute perfectly every time and 11 defensive players do not matter and opposing DC's are powerless to stop the proper fan-approved OC. Football is the ultimate team sport and offense is a third of the equation. How can you lay all the blame for success or failure at the feet of one man? Nothing is that simple.

We all want to see some long bombs...who don't? We all want to blow the scoreboard up and win easy every game...who don't?

Let's give ourselves the best chance to do that by sticking to the process.

[Expat Bachelor]

(10-12-2010 02:13 PM)redwolfcfc Wrote:  Well obviously there are folks who think

A) continuity is over-rated.
B) if it ain't broke--break it--then try and fix it.
C) Wearing defenses down up the middle for three quarters and finishing them off in the fourth is boring as hell.
D) If the players fail to execute a play then it was a bad play call and the OC sux.
E) Making D lineman sprint to the sideline several times a game to wear them out is bullshit.
F) Offensive time of possession is not only over-rated but it is boring, sucks and is bullshit. Throw it vertical on 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down if necessary.
G) Balance? we don't needs no stinkin balance?
H) ZOMG! where are our 5-receiver sets?
I) Winning record be damned I want fantasy points!
J) Dudes last name is Mularkey. Can we please get someone with a cool name?
K) I wanna do it like Sean Payton.


Seriously can't we wait until we are not the top team in the NFC to go blowing the whole thing up?

I mean MM might not be Sean Payton or Mike Martz or Andy Reid or whoever is the golden child of the moment, but I remember Greg Knapp... and Mularkey might not be exciting like him but he does just win baby and I can accept that for now.

One last thing... Football is not played in a vacuum where 11 offensive players execute perfectly every time and 11 defensive players do not matter and opposing DC's are powerless to stop the proper fan-approved OC. Football is the ultimate team sport and offense is a third of the equation. How can you lay all the blame for success or failure at the feet of one man? Nothing is that simple.

We all want to see some long bombs...who don't? We all want to blow the scoreboard up and win easy every game...who don't?

Let's give ourselves the best chance to do that by sticking to the process.

Very comprehensive and very good post.
I love the type of offense we have. You know we are going to maul you and there is nothing you can do to stop it. The only defense we struggle against are great run defenses aka Pitt.

[BadMoonRising]

(10-12-2010 02:13 PM)redwolfcfc Wrote:  Well obviously there are folks who think

A) continuity is over-rated.
B) if it ain't broke--break it--then try and fix it.
C) Wearing defenses down up the middle for three quarters and finishing them off in the fourth is boring as hell.
D) If the players fail to execute a play then it was a bad play call and the OC sux.
E) Making D lineman sprint to the sideline several times a game to wear them out is bullshit.
F) Offensive time of possession is not only over-rated but it is boring, sucks and is bullshit. Throw it vertical on 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down if necessary.
G) Balance? we don't needs no stinkin balance?
H) ZOMG! where are our 5-receiver sets?
I) Winning record be damned I want fantasy points!
J) Dudes last name is Mularkey. Can we please get someone with a cool name?
K) I wanna do it like Sean Payton.

A) continuity is over-rated.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

B) if it ain't broke--break it--then try and fix it.
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

C) Wearing defenses down up the middle for three quarters and finishing them off in the fourth is boring as hell.
No one cares if its boring, but having close games decided by 3 or less points to weaker opponents would make anyone rationaly concerned about our chances in the playoffs, and if you think you are going to wear down a front 3 like the Steelers down with out a prowbowl offensive line you aren't thinking to hard on it

D) If the players fail to execute a play then it was a bad play call and the OC sux.
Yes that flea flicker on 3rd and ten was an awsome call.

E) Making D lineman sprint to the sideline several times a game to wear them out is bullshit.
Um what offense scheme wouldn't attempt to do that.

F) Offensive time of possession is not only over-rated but it is boring, sucks and is bullshit. Throw it vertical on 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 4th down if necessary.
I recall west coast offenses being about yac, and throwing to zones.

G) Balance? we don't needs no stinkin balance?
Yep no WCO has ever ran the ball.

H) ZOMG! where are our 5-receiver sets?
Had no idea, Brent Jones, Tom Rathman, Roger Craig where WRs.

I) Winning record be damned I want fantasy points!
Yes, Andy Reid, Bill Walsh, George Seffiert, John Gruden all have losing records.

J) Dudes last name is Mularkey. Can we please get someone with a cool name?
Could give a damn if his name is betty boo as long as utilizes all our personal to their abilities.

K) I wanna do it like Sean Payton.
Nah Mike Martz ran the greatest show on turf.

This was not a fair post at all. Don't think every person with a diffrent opinion than you are Madden Freaks.

[Peyton]

I think what this offense needs much more than a new offensive coordinator is another starting caliber WR and a protypical 3rd down back that can stay healthy.

[hitwriter]

(10-12-2010 10:51 AM)Peyton Wrote:  I don't really have a problem with Mularkey this year. If the Falcons have an issue on offense, I think it is the lack of productive receivers beyond Roddy White.

Ok....well....I do have one problem with the playcalling. When the Falcons have the ball on the 10 or 15 yard line, the Falcons need to take a shot in the endzone. I think they are being way too cautious in the red zone, settling for way too many FGs without even taking a shot.

Totally agree... where's the Finneran jump ball at least!

[babuka]

There are three problems with the offense:

1) Mularkey. It is not so much that he doesn't throw down the field a lot, even though that is a problem. It is that his plays always makes the receiver run like 1 of 3 routes. It is always stops, outs, and comebacks. They never attack the middle of the field. Every now and then they run a crossing route where they hit a guy in stride and they get like 8 yards after the catch for a big play. But he only calls these routes a few times a game, or he makes Turner or one of the tight ends run it who have little speed.

2) WRs - Roddy is awesome. Harry has potential. Everyone else cannot create seperation. Weems is not a good WR. Jenkins was maybe the worst starter on the team last year, only slightly better than JA98. Finneran is old and has 3 knee surgeries. The Falcons have too many receivers whose only redeeming quality is that they can post up defensive backs. This is not basketball. That is what a tight end is for, not receivers.

3) Oline. Ryan has not had as much time to throw as some other QBs. Although I will say that this problem is not near as serious as the first two listed.


The first two reasons are the main reasons Ryan is not lighting up the NFL. Defensive backs and coaches know that the Falcons are going to run these little short stop routes and out routes all game. The receivers do not help by not creating seperation; Roddy and Harry are the only two guys that ever catch a pass without the defense hanging off their back. This is why Ryan is always throwing into such tight windows. This is why Ryan never has 300 yard passing games. Most of this 230 yards passing are yards he got through the air on little short routes where the receiver does nothing after the catch.

The Falcons need one more better faster receiver other than Douglas and White in 3 receiver sets. They need a speed running back in those sets also for checkdowns that can run a 4.3. They need Murlakey to put guys in space when they catch the ball, both down the field and across the middle. Let Ryan hit guys running in stride, not stopped on a comeback route.