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Swift Is a Die Hard · 01-19-2011, 09:06 AM

(01-19-2011 12:54 AM)Radical Wrote: During Tom Brady's 3 Superbowls, he had a top tier defense assisting him.
When Peyton finally won a Superbowl, it was when his defense decided to go all world in the play-offs.
When Eli won a Superbowl, his defense shut down the greatest offense to ever step on the field.
When Big Ben won the Superbowl the 2nd time, his defense scored points and destroyed Kurt Warner.
When the Saints won the Superbowl, their defense provided the game ending INT returned for a TD.

Aaron Rodgers has one of the best defense in the league working with him. So tell me about all these QBs who win in the play-offs without defense?

You do know our defense finished in top 5 in POINTS ALLOWED THIS SEASON
We also had a top 5 rushing attack ..

But our QB and our defense were horrible in playoff game ..do you agree ?

Our QB threw 2 terrible picks ..1 inexcusable before the half

do you agree

In 2 playoff games so far our defense has been bad and our QB stats in his 2 playoff games

QB Rating of 69.0 in Green Bay Divisional game
QB Rating of 72.9 in Arizona wild card game

4 ints only 3 tds

BadMoonRising · 01-19-2011, 12:11 PM

(01-18-2011 11:25 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote: so your saying Ryan is not capable winning in the playoffs unless we get a GREAT DEFENSE ..I agree

also the comment of take away there defense ...makes lil sense your dealt the cards does Tom Brady wish he had Peyton Manning wrs or does Peyton Manning wish he had Bill Bellichick as a coach .its just a excuse.

want to take away Big Ben super bowls cause he has a good defense..Big Ben did nothing in those games to lead Pitt to 2 super bowls .

Eli Manning won a super bowl when his GREAT defense gave up the lead he drove them back for a winning td ..

No QB can beat a team if your defense can't force a single punt.

Not Brady, Montana, Young, Manning or Ryan.

he doesn't have a great defense, he just needs to have one that isn't jus tout their on the field looking at the dome lights.

***Peyton*** · 01-19-2011, 12:39 PM

(01-19-2011 12:11 PM)BadMoonRising Wrote: No QB can beat a team if your defense can't force a single punt.

Jim Kelly did it lol.

BadMoonRising · 01-19-2011, 03:06 PM

(01-19-2011 12:39 PM)Peyton Wrote: Jim Kelly did it lol.

what year and what game? Also lets make sure we are not talking about Frank Reich Smile

TomBradyMVP12 · (This post was last modified: 01-19-2011 03:13 PM by TomBradyMVP12.)

I came down really hard on Ryan after the loss and acted like a complete ass but looking back at the game, you can't single out one guy in a performance like that....The guy is a winner, I am still a huge fan of the guy and I wish him the best. Just hopefully soon he can win some playoff games sooner rather than later.

Joker · 01-19-2011, 03:30 PM

(01-18-2011 04:56 PM)Radical Wrote: No. You called him a weak armed, game managing, Chad Pennington clone.

Then you backed off it after the Ravens game.

Now you're back on it. Weak sauce.

The Chad was awesome when he was healthy. He had a few years with QB ratings over 100. And he was tough as nails.. people say he's gonna be a good coach one day

**Radical** · 01-19-2011, 05:09 PM

(01-19-2011 09:06 AM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote: You do know our defense finished in top 5 in POINTS ALLOWED THIS SEASON
We also had a top 5 rushing attack ..

But our QB and our defense were horrible in playoff game ..do you agree ?

Our QB threw 2 terrible picks ..1 inexcusable before the half

do you agree

In 2 playoff games so far our defense has been bad and our QB stats in his 2 playoff games

QB Rating of 69.0 in Green Bay Divisional game
QB Rating of 72.9 in Arizona wild card game

4 ints only 3 tds

Are you saying our defense is/was better than the Steelers, Jets, Packers, or Bears defense? You do know that our defense didn't force a single punt all game right?

Top 5 rushing attack? Try 12th in the league, with a 3.8 YPC average, one of the lowest in the league.

So again, tell me about all these guys who've won without surrounding talent or a halfway decent defense? Clearly Rodgers isn't superman and just carrying the team all by himself.

Swift Is a Die Hard · (This post was last modified: 01-19-2011 05:25 PM by Swift Is a Die Hard.)

love how you bring in YPC as lowest in league

what was YPA with Ryan.........26th ....... one of .LOWEST IN LEAGUE

Rodgers also had what the 22nd rushing offense

and how many sacks did Rodgers oline allow

There is no question Aaron Rodgers is much better then Matt Ryan

**Radical** · 01-19-2011, 05:56 PM

Love how you always try to steer the discussion somewhere else when something isn't going your way.

Snelling44 · 01-19-2011, 09:50 PM

lol at that bullshit "our defense didn't force a punt". Yea i agree our defense was bad but don't act like the offenses inability didn't hurt our defense. They we're on the field for most of the game and Matt Ryan and the offense couldn't respond to give them some rest. Fact, Matt Ryan has 6 turnovers in 2 playoff games. You can't win with that many turnovers.

Radical, if you didn't want a comparison to Brady why did you bring up that Matt Ryan's stats we're better in his 3rd year? That certainly sounds like you are implying he's on a better pace than Brady, at least to me.

Do you think he is a Matt Hasselbeck/Eli type or a Brady/Manning type?