A look at our oline & ryans ypa

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(10-18-2010 01:39 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  12-2 when Turner runs 100+ yards...

Show us any other team that wouldn't have a similar record when their RB runs for 100+ yards.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(10-18-2010 01:39 PM)Sporkdevil Wrote:  Your comparisons either show Ryan is the better player or try comparing him to a player that has been in the league significantly longer than Ryan.

Sanchez and Flacco have both lead there teams to playoff wins I would consider that a critique no for going in right direction and improvement ..Yes Ravens and Jets might also have a better team all around then Ryan you have to take that into fact

I have im not killing Ryan I like the kid but right now he seems very limited ..He reminds me of a Improved Chad Pennington..Chad was a winner and was a top tier QB didnt have the arm ..I think Ryan arm is better then Chad slighlty but same type QB


Not having physical tools can limit a QB ...Montana would have not been Montana if he didnt have the Bill Walsh wco scheme and played for another scheme

[Sporkdevil]

I don't think he is limited. He made that 52 yard pass last week for a TD. Maybe he reminds you of Chad Pennington, but it takes more than just over two years to evaluate a QB.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(10-18-2010 01:44 PM)Va Falcon 88 Wrote:  Show us any other team that wouldn't have a similar record when their RB runs for 100+ yards.

49ers are like 6-4 over last couple of years when Gore rushed for 100+ yards

[raysnill1]

(10-18-2010 01:00 PM)Sporkdevil Wrote:  Rodgers is still having issues, and is starting his 6th season, not his 3rd.

Rodgers is only in his 3rd year starting though. and in his first year it was jailbreak on Rodgers, he was one of the most sacked QBs in the league but was still putting up ridiculous numbers.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(10-18-2010 01:46 PM)Sporkdevil Wrote:  I don't think he is limited. He made that 52 yard pass last week for a TD. Maybe he reminds you of Chad Pennington, but it takes more than just over two years to evaluate a QB.

35+ games is a good amount of games to evaluate a player... you see the body of work you see what he is capable of .this is his 3rd year going into system

Ryan yes did throw that 1 pass to Roddy ...

but he also threw a duck yesterday..Ryan has shown he can not throw the deep pass on the regular or even open up the field on a consistent basis

That in no means he is a bad QB ..Right now he is a avg QB ..very smart hard work ethic but lacks the physical tools some of the other young QBS have

[RFlagg]

(10-18-2010 01:44 PM)Swift Is a Die Hard Wrote:  Sanchez and Flacco have both lead there teams to playoff wins I would consider that a critique no for going in right direction and improvement ..Yes Ravens and Jets might also have a better team all around then Ryan you have to take that into fact

I have im not killing Ryan I like the kid but right now he seems very limited ..He reminds me of a Improved Chad Pennington..Chad was a winner and was a top tier QB didnt have the arm ..I think Ryan arm is better then Chad slighlty but same type QB


Not having physical tools can limit a QB ...Montana would have not been Montana if he didnt have the Bill Walsh wco scheme and played for another scheme

Bull and you know it. Their Defenses led them to Playoff wins, not their QBs.

2009 Defensive Rankings: NY Jets #1, Baltimore #3.
2008 Defensive Rankings: Baltimore #2

You, sir, are full of crap.

[Sporkdevil]

(10-18-2010 01:49 PM)raysnill1 Wrote:  Rodgers is only in his 3rd year starting though. and in his first year it was jailbreak on Rodgers, he was one of the most sacked QBs in the league but was still putting up ridiculous numbers.

I wish we had the luxury of sitting Ryan for a year or two to learn the offense and get up to speed, keep up his confidence, like GB was able to do with Rodgers. You can't tell me those years of preparation didn't help him out.

Rodgers puts up big numbers in a similar way that Big Ben does, by holding onto the ball too long, but it does let the deep plays develop.

[raysnill1]

(10-18-2010 01:46 PM)Sporkdevil Wrote:  I don't think he is limited. He made that 52 yard pass last week for a TD.

I don't think he's limited and i think he's not the right guy for a so-called smash mouth football team. I personally think we should set up the run through passing. I also don't think we need to run Turner out of power formations. both him & Snelling are hard runners that pound the ball, spread the formations out & let them pound on a few LBs.

[Swift Is a Die Hard]

(10-18-2010 01:54 PM)RFlagg Wrote:  Bull and you know it. Their Defenses led them to Playoff wins, not their QBs.

2009 Defensive Rankings: NY Jets #1, Baltimore #3.
2008 Defensive Rankings: Baltimore #2

You, sir, are full of crap.

did you watch the playoffs last year and see Sanchez step up in playoff games


go look at his stats


Thats what I mean were never going to have a GREAT DEFENSE we need Ryan to be better then Sanchez /Flacco but he hasnt showed he can be much better then them


Unless we get a great defense dont think we can win a super bowl with a avg QB ..

Flacco/Sanchez I think are avg QBS but have potential and I think more potential then Ryan cause of the physical tools and the supporting cast