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Dr. Billings · 09-16-2010, 02:09 PM

Matty Ice will produce this weekend. Let's face it people Pittsburgh's defense is terrible. Now we will see what Ryan has to offer, while at home, with a lesser opponent.

A win will solve all ills.

Paprika Neck · 09-16-2010, 02:20 PM

the falcon filter failed us

theProf · (This post was last modified: 09-16-2010 02:28 PM by theProf.)

(09-16-2010 10:14 AM)Peyton Wrote: I mean, my concerns aren't going to go away, but I do know this. We light the Cardinals up on Sunday, and people around here will magically feel a whole lot better about Matt Ryan.

A football team and its players are only as good or as bad as their last game from the typical fans' perspective. Must be something phychological about this peculiar phenomenon.

theProf · 09-17-2010, 07:31 AM

(09-16-2010 09:49 AM)Dyoshot Wrote: I know Ryan makes mistakes, but I think this is about 90% a problem with Mularkey. Ryan doesn't have a cannon arm, but he isn't Joey Harrington either. I assume we knew about his arm strength, or lack of it when we drafted him. How come after two years they haven't built an offense that caters to his strengths? I'm not a fan of firing an OC during the season. However, I really think he should get the ax at the end of the year. Ryan should have been in a west coast offense.

Ryan has plenty of arm strength to get the ball downfield. The problem isn't his lack of arm strength; it is lack of time to throw. According to Tandy's statistics from the Steelers game, Ryan had to throw over 75% of his passes in less than 2 seconds. The OL was just not giving Ryan adequate enough protection and time to throw deep.

JDaveG · 09-17-2010, 07:38 AM

(09-16-2010 10:10 AM)putnam6 Wrote: Well this is where the offensive coach gives him a quick option on every play (slant etc. like they had with Douglas in 2008) cause I'm not expecting huge improvements in OL play.

That's the part I don't get. That skinny post to Jenkins in Ryan's first game was a thing of beauty -- it allowed Matt to get the ball out early and Jenkins to catch the ball in stride. Why we don't have more of that is more than I can understand. Maybe defenses are scheming that play out, but I don't see how they could on a 3 wide single back set. Leave the TE in to block or send him on a slant or go route.

Oh, yeah, we don't use that set very much......

BirdsOfPrey · 09-17-2010, 10:14 AM

(09-16-2010 09:49 AM)Dyoshot Wrote: I know Ryan makes mistakes, but I think this is about 90% a problem with Mularkey. Ryan doesn't have a cannon arm, but he isn't Joey Harrington either. I assume we knew about his arm strength, or lack of it when we drafted him. How come after two years they haven't built an offense that caters to his strengths? I'm not a fan of firing an OC during the season. However, I really think he should get the ax at the end of the year. Ryan should have been in a west coast offense.

Agree 100%.

Not sure it is fair to say that Ryan hasn't improved because the play calling doesn't allow him to show his full capabilities. If MM would open it up a bit, I think we'd see a QB that has improved greatly. He is just being handcuffed right now.

breadslicer · 09-17-2010, 11:36 AM

(09-16-2010 10:03 AM)Tandy Wrote: What we have is another good QB - who has the potential to be great

and

Another offensive line which can break him

Yeah it struck me that Dennis Dixon had a more comfortable pocket and more time than Ryan did and not many people mention that.

chessplayer1 · (This post was last modified: 09-17-2010 12:37 PM by chessplayer1.)

(09-16-2010 10:03 AM)Tandy Wrote: What we have is another good QB - who has the potential to be great

and

Another offensive line which can break him

Personally I believe that MM is trying to protect Ryan.

I believe that if we throw down the field and Ryan gets Intercepted often it will kill his confidence.
Joey Harrinton WAS decent in college,but in Detroit his confidence was destroyed.
MM is trying to salvage Ryan's confidence by bringing him along slowly.
If we fire MM and bring in a new OC Ryan will regress further and then he will feel pressured even more to perform. That could create a downward spiral.

If we can eek out messy wins with-out going down field so-be-it.

Lets allow Matt to develope and lets allow MM to bring him along slowly.

**Radical** · 09-17-2010, 12:40 PM

(09-17-2010 12:36 PM)chessplayer1 Wrote: Personally I believe that MM is trying to protect Ryan.

I believe that if we throw down the field and Ryan gets Intercepted often it will kill his confidence.
Joey Harrinton WAS decent in college,but in Detroit his confidence was destroyed.
MM is trying to salvage Ryan's confidence by bringing him along slowly.
If we fire MM and bring in a new OC Ryan will regress further and then he will feel pressured even more to perform. That could create a downward spiral.

If we can eek out messy wins with-out going down field so-be-it.

Lets allow Matt to develope and lets allow MM to bring him along slowly.

I don't think we'll ever have to worry about Matt Ryan becoming Joey Harrington. There's a stark character difference between the two.

chessplayer1 · 09-17-2010, 12:46 PM

(09-17-2010 12:40 PM)Radical Wrote: I don't think we'll ever have to worry about Matt Ryan becoming Joey Harrington. There's a stark character difference between the two.

Character aside i believe MM has Ryan's best interest at heart.

He may have seen Ryan seem less confident at some point in practice and he decided to scale back.

You can not kill a young guys confidence.

If you do, its over.